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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Dec 13, 2020 21:30:48 GMT -7
Western teams may also be at a disadvantage, Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver have their minor teams in the US. If we need callups how will this be solved? They’ll keep players with the team. The most likely call ups. For Edmonton: Benson, Marody, Bouchard, Lagesson, Skinner. Or whoever. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by fogolin2 on Dec 18, 2020 15:38:16 GMT -7
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Dec 18, 2020 15:45:24 GMT -7
The NHL is going to announce whatever the final plan is before the NBA season starts, which is Tuesday. So, I’m expecting an announcement on Monday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by happyhappy on Dec 18, 2020 16:52:18 GMT -7
Plan A involves the All-Canadian division however it takes all provinces Health Authorities to give the go ahead in order for it to happen. Listening to Johnston (same author of article here) on Tim n Sid today, it sounds like all provinces are aboard except one, BC. Sooo, while they wait for the provincial governments to make their final decision the NHL is working out plan B, which would involve all teams playing in the States, and no All Canadian division. I think the goal is still 56 games starting mid Jan, but with each day passing with no final decisions made, that timeframe seems to becoming more unlikely. Still possible though, as long as they started before Feb they should be able to still make it happen. We wait. Damn you Covid.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Dec 19, 2020 11:54:27 GMT -7
Plan A involves the All-Canadian division however it takes all provinces Health Authorities to give the go ahead in order for it to happen. Listening to Johnston (same author of article here) on Tim n Sid today, it sounds like all provinces are aboard except one, BC. Sooo, while they wait for the provincial governments to make their final decision the NHL is working out plan B, which would involve all teams playing in the States, and no All Canadian division. I think the goal is still 56 games starting mid Jan, but with each day passing with no final decisions made, that timeframe seems to becoming more unlikely. Still possible though, as long as they started before Feb they should be able to still make it happen. We wait. Damn you Covid. It looks like the Canucks may head to Moose Jaw to to play the season so that Canadian teams don’t have to play in the US. Not sure if this is true or not, but David Staples tweeted it. BC Health is the only province that didn’t approve the NHL restart terms. I guess they didn’t like that teams would still be travelling across country regularly-ish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by happyhappy on Dec 19, 2020 14:54:33 GMT -7
Plan A involves the All-Canadian division however it takes all provinces Health Authorities to give the go ahead in order for it to happen. Listening to Johnston (same author of article here) on Tim n Sid today, it sounds like all provinces are aboard except one, BC. Sooo, while they wait for the provincial governments to make their final decision the NHL is working out plan B, which would involve all teams playing in the States, and no All Canadian division. I think the goal is still 56 games starting mid Jan, but with each day passing with no final decisions made, that timeframe seems to becoming more unlikely. Still possible though, as long as they started before Feb they should be able to still make it happen. We wait. Damn you Covid. It looks like the Canucks may head to Moose Jaw to to play the season so that Canadian teams don’t have to play in the US. Not sure if this is true or not, but David Staples tweeted it. BC Health is the only province that didn’t approve the NHL restart terms. I guess they didn’t like that teams would still be travelling across country regularly-ish. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hope that's true. I'm sure most fans don't like the of the idea of all our Canadian teams going to the States for the season and I know for sure the players Really don't like the idea. Finding a Canadian city for the Nix to play in makes the most logical sense. Moose Jaw is fairly central too, making for short easy travel.
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Post by happyhappy on Dec 20, 2020 16:57:54 GMT -7
Official NHL Statement (including plan is for home areans to be used, neutral site if necessary – i.e. no hubs, at least for now): The NHL and NHL Players’ Association reached an agreement Sunday to play a 56-game regular season starting Jan. 13, 2021 and concluding on May 8. The 2020-21 season has been delayed due to continuing concerns surrounding the coronavirus. “The National Hockey League looks forward to the opening of our 2020-21 season, especially since the Return to Play in 2019-20 was so successful in crowning a Stanley Cup champion,” NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said. “While we are well aware of the challenges ahead, as was the case last spring and summer, we are continuing to prioritize the health and safety of our participants and the communities in which we live and play. And, as was the case last spring and summer, I thank the NHLPA, particularly Executive Director Don Fehr, for working cooperatively with us to get our League back on the ice.” Formal training camps will begin on Jan. 3. There will be no pre-season games. The seven teams that did not participate in the 2019-20 Return to Play will be permitted to open their training camps as early as Dec. 31. As part of the agreement, the Stanley Cup Playoffs would feature 16 teams in the traditional best-of-seven, four-round format and conclude around mid-July with the plan of returning to a “normal” hockey calendar for the 2021-22 season (regular season beginning in October). The NHL and NHLPA will release the Health and Safety Protocols, transition rules and critical dates calendar as well as the 2020-21 schedule in the coming days. Games will be within realigned divisions only, including a division of the seven teams based in Canada. In reaching agreement on the format for the 2020-21 season, the NHL and NHLPA determined that the ongoing closure of the U.S.-Canada border required realignment and the NHL and the players also sought to minimize team travel as much as possible by shifting to exclusively intradivisional play. Each team in the East, Central and West divisions will play every other team in its division eight times while each team in the North Division (Canada teams) will play every other team in its division nine or 10 times. The top four teams in each division will qualify for the Stanley Cup Playoffs, with intradivisional play in the first two rounds (No. 1 vs. No. 4; No. 2 vs. No. 3). The four teams that advance to the Semifinal Round would be seeded by their regular season points total. It is the current plan to play games in the home arenas of participating teams while understanding that most arenas will not, at least in the initial part of the season, be able to host fans. But depending on prevailing conditions, the NHL will be prepared to play games in one or more “neutral site” venues per division should it become necessary. The NHL and NHLPA have had to adjust to government regulations at all levels, from restrictions at the Canada-United States border to local limits on gatherings, and the coronavirus situation in each of the markets for the 31 NHL teams. The agreement includes health and safety protocols. The last game of last season was played Sept. 28, when the Tampa Bay Lightning defeated the Dallas Stars 2-0 in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final. “The Players are pleased to have finalized agreements for the upcoming season, which will be unique but also very exciting for the fans and Players alike,” NHLPA Executive Director Don Fehr said. “During these troubled times, we hope that NHL games will provide fans with some much needed entertainment as the players return to the ice.”  |
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Post by fogolin2 on Dec 22, 2020 16:58:33 GMT -7
Love the new offside rule...Player's skate can be onside if his foot isn't touching the ice. If he hasn't completely passed the plane of the attacking blueline, he could be flying through the air, and he would still be onside.
Enough of these lengthy reviews of 'was his skate off the ice?'
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Post by discostew on Dec 23, 2020 10:32:05 GMT -7
Love the new offside rule...Player's skate can be onside if his foot isn't touching the ice. If he hasn't completely passed the plane of the attacking blueline, he could be flying through the air, and he would still be onside. Enough of these lengthy reviews of 'was his skate off the ice?' Yep should make reviews much easier as the over head review is relatively cut and dry. |
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Dec 23, 2020 10:48:41 GMT -7
Love the new offside rule...Player's skate can be onside if his foot isn't touching the ice. If he hasn't completely passed the plane of the attacking blueline, he could be flying through the air, and he would still be onside. Enough of these lengthy reviews of 'was his skate off the ice?' We'll have to wait and see. If leg is raised it will depend on camera angle to see if the foot is still outside the blueline. They will need a camera directly viewing on the blueline, even then it could be a judgement call. The rule change will definitely be an advantage for speedy players like McD.
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Post by fogolin2 on Dec 23, 2020 10:51:41 GMT -7
Love the new offside rule...Player's skate can be onside if his foot isn't touching the ice. If he hasn't completely passed the plane of the attacking blueline, he could be flying through the air, and he would still be onside. Enough of these lengthy reviews of 'was his skate off the ice?' We'll have to wait and see. If leg is raised it will depend on camera angle to see if the foot is still outside the blueline. They will need a camera directly viewing on the blueline, even then it could be a judgement call. The rule change will definitely be an advantage for speedy players like McD. I think the camera angles is the point of the rule change. All rinks have the 'down the line' cam, but at varying heights. The new rule will mean the variance doesn't matter anymore. We don't need to know if the foot is on the ice or not, just if it's completely across the plane of the line
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Dec 23, 2020 13:54:12 GMT -7
We'll have to wait and see. If leg is raised it will depend on camera angle to see if the foot is still outside the blueline. They will need a camera directly viewing on the blueline, even then it could be a judgement call. The rule change will definitely be an advantage for speedy players like McD. I think the camera angles is the point of the rule change. All rinks have the 'down the line' cam, but at varying heights. The new rule will mean the variance doesn't matter anymore. We don't need to know if the foot is on the ice or not, just if it's completely across the plane of the line With skate on the blueline it is far easier to see if it is offside. Once the skate leaves the ice it is more of a judgement call, much like a puck being deflected off the stick into the goal. Much of the time it is very very close to whether it is determined being batted down with a high stick or a legal goal. The level and angle of the camera is important there too.
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Post by sharptooth on Dec 31, 2020 23:02:27 GMT -7
Happy New Year Everyone!!
13 days till show time!!
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Post by happyhappy on Jan 3, 2021 5:28:56 GMT -7
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Post by fogolin2 on Jan 3, 2021 9:08:23 GMT -7
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Post by fogolin2 on Jan 4, 2021 9:09:07 GMT -7
Wow...some interesting stuff going on...
Barzal holding out, apparently looking for longterm around $10m, but Isles want a bridge. The kid is a star so Lou better be careful not to burn the bridge. Could be really expensive in a couple years
Pierre-Luc Dubois has asked for a trade out of Columbus. Sounds like he's tired of playing for Torts, even though he's saying all the right things. I thought he was awesome for them in the playoffs, and he's on a 2year-$5m per contract. Solid 2way center, young, big, healthy...not sure what team can afford a guy like that. If he ends up in Canada it will make our path that much tougher.
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Post by blackhawk216 on Jan 4, 2021 9:38:41 GMT -7
Wow...some interesting stuff going on... Barzal holding out, apparently looking for longterm around $10m, but Isles want a bridge. The kid is a star so Lou better be careful not to burn the bridge. Could be really expensive in a couple years Pierre-Luc Dubois has asked for a trade out of Columbus. Sounds like he's tired of playing for Torts, even though he's saying all the right things. I thought he was awesome for them in the playoffs, and he's on a 2year-$5m per contract. Solid 2way center, young, big, healthy...not sure what team can afford a guy like that. If he ends up in Canada it will make our path that much tougher. Perhaps not if he was playing for the Oilers? Five years younger than RNH. Much bigger than RNH. Better +/- than RNH by 66. Similar pts per game .67 v .73. Cheaper contract than RNH, $1m now, likely rising to $1.5m/$2m. Move Drai to the wing, improve defensively without much (if any) loss pts wise..............what's not to like?
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Post by drtaf on Jan 4, 2021 9:59:24 GMT -7
Wow...some interesting stuff going on... Barzal holding out, apparently looking for longterm around $10m, but Isles want a bridge. The kid is a star so Lou better be careful not to burn the bridge. Could be really expensive in a couple years Pierre-Luc Dubois has asked for a trade out of Columbus. Sounds like he's tired of playing for Torts, even though he's saying all the right things. I thought he was awesome for them in the playoffs, and he's on a 2year-$5m per contract. Solid 2way center, young, big, healthy...not sure what team can afford a guy like that. If he ends up in Canada it will make our path that much tougher. Perhaps not if he was playing for the Oilers? Five years younger than RNH. Much bigger than RNH. Better +/- than RNH by 66. Similar pts per game .67 v .73. Cheaper contract than RNH, $1m now, likely rising to $1.5m/$2m. Move Drai to the wing, improve defensively without much (if any) loss pts wise..............what's not to like? Would do it in a heartbeat and I'm a fan of Nuge, but doubt CBJ would, why would they? The only way this might work is if KH signs nuge for <$6M x 6years and then trades him, which in most circles would be considered a Doughtybag move. (the caveat would be if RNH agrees to this, or has "secret" talks with CBJ and agree to terms before the trade happens. TBH, I'm not sure trade/signing nuge is a top priority atm, lets get 30 games in and see where we/he stands and then if we need to trade/sign at deadline, we do (unless of course a sweetheart deal like the PLD one comes up first ;-)
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Post by fogolin2 on Jan 4, 2021 10:24:45 GMT -7
Wow...some interesting stuff going on... Barzal holding out, apparently looking for longterm around $10m, but Isles want a bridge. The kid is a star so Lou better be careful not to burn the bridge. Could be really expensive in a couple years Pierre-Luc Dubois has asked for a trade out of Columbus. Sounds like he's tired of playing for Torts, even though he's saying all the right things. I thought he was awesome for them in the playoffs, and he's on a 2year-$5m per contract. Solid 2way center, young, big, healthy...not sure what team can afford a guy like that. If he ends up in Canada it will make our path that much tougher. Perhaps not if he was playing for the Oilers? Five years younger than RNH. Much bigger than RNH. Better +/- than RNH by 66. Similar pts per game .67 v .73. Cheaper contract than RNH, $1m now, likely rising to $1.5m/$2m. Move Drai to the wing, improve defensively without much (if any) loss pts wise..............what's not to like? I totally would love this, but would CBJ trade their top center for a winger? No. I don't think we're a good match for this deal. Also, I don't think we should change anything to do with Draisatl. Seems insulting to move the Hart/Ross/Lindsay trophy winner to the wing because we got an "upgrade" at center. I could see Calgary taking a hard run at PLD. A package with Monahan or Gaudreau +++ could be in play. A combo of PLD and Tkachuk could be deadly productive. After they failed again last year, there was some Flames fans shouting for changes to the core and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the match that lit that fuse. Kaboom.
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Post by blackhawk216 on Jan 4, 2021 10:41:13 GMT -7
Perhaps not if he was playing for the Oilers? Five years younger than RNH. Much bigger than RNH. Better +/- than RNH by 66. Similar pts per game .67 v .73. Cheaper contract than RNH, $1m now, likely rising to $1.5m/$2m. Move Drai to the wing, improve defensively without much (if any) loss pts wise..............what's not to like? I totally would love this, but would CBJ trade their top center for a winger? No. I don't think we're a good match for this deal. Also, I don't think we should change anything to do with Draisatl. Seems insulting to move the Hart/Ross/Lindsay trophy winner to the wing because we got an "upgrade" at center. I could see Calgary taking a hard run at PLD. A package with Monahan or Gaudreau +++ could be in play. A combo of PLD and Tkachuk could be deadly productive. After they failed again last year, there was some Flames fans shouting for changes to the core and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the match that lit that fuse. Kaboom. RNH was drafted and has played many more times as a centre than on the wing. He is basically "a winger" by default. Isn't he? Re Drai...........are we trying to build a better team or are we trying to avoid hurting player's feelings? . (You can see I wouldn't last long as a coach lol). And finally, it has been bandied around recently that Dubois wants out of Columbus..........so why wouldn't they trade a guy that by all reports is not happy at the club? Having said all of the above, maybe there isn't a deal to be done, but worth talking about I guess.
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