|
|
Post by fogolin2 on Oct 24, 2019 13:39:49 GMT -7
Friedman is reporting that the Oilers may be trying to start extension talks with Darnell.
The Edmonton Oilers are hoping to talk to defenseman Darnell Nurse soon about a contract extension. He is two years away from being an unrestricted free agent.
He's got 7 points through 10 games, after a 40 point season last year. He's solid (not spectacular) defensively. He's a great skater, and rugged and durable. I miss the face punching yelling version, but I'm happy to settle for a 40 point-80 game version of Nurse.
What's his extension going to look like? If he gets 50 points this year? He has arbitration rights, so no way a basic qualifying offer keeps him around next year. Do we sign him up long term? Another bridge?
We're seeing what only paying fancy forwards looks like...ahem Toronto....we'll need some grit and experience to shelter Bouchard and Sammy. Seems like Nurse has been the perfect partner for Bear, and I hope that continues.
I'm a big Nurse guy, so I'd like to keep him for his whole career. What do you guys think of the player, and what he's worth?
|
|
|
|
Post by GrooveyAsh on Oct 24, 2019 14:03:47 GMT -7
I think good D are more valuable set pieces; harder to find, longer to develop, just as, if not more important in winning games and in the end, they cost less.
Nurse is trending up again, approaching his prime, and the meanness is still there... I say pay him fairly to comparable market value for sure, even more if necessary.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Oct 24, 2019 15:52:21 GMT -7
He'll get between 6.5M and 7.5M per year. If he cracks 50-60 points, he'll likely get closer to 8M.
|
|
|
|
Post by happyhappy on Oct 27, 2019 5:38:11 GMT -7
He'll get between 6.5M and 7.5M per year. If he cracks 50-60 points, he'll likely get closer to 8M. Agreed and I'm fine with that. 7mil x 6yr is what I'm hoping it's around. With the assumption of a continuously rising cap, that price is manageable. I'm very pleased and not surprised with the player Nurse has become and I'd like to see him locked up for awhile. I also don't think he has peaked and his best has yet to come. Git er dun Ken. 
|
|
|
|
Post by mrtea on Oct 27, 2019 8:25:48 GMT -7
Like the rest of you I find Nurse is getting better every year and worth keeping around. When Nurse is done maturing it looks like he may be a beast, I hope we can lock him up for as long as possible. Our next hurdle will be keeping all the good defensemen we've been drafting.
|
|
|
|
Post by rapiershot on Oct 27, 2019 8:50:58 GMT -7
In his rookie season, Nurse was seen as a potential core member of the team...since then, he has not disappointed. At 24, he has, at least, 10 more seasons in him and why not keep him here? If that means $7m x 6 then we need to pay the man. He could become the mainstay with the new defensive core coming down the pipe over the next few years.
|
|
|
|
Post by Messrules11 on Oct 27, 2019 9:27:44 GMT -7
It’s hilarious that some on the old message board used to argue that Benning was better than Nurse. I said Nurse would turn into a beast a few years back and that Benning was a bum. Still holds true.
|
|
|
|
Post by oildude on Oct 27, 2019 9:29:38 GMT -7
It’s hilarious that some on the old message board used to argue that Benning was better than Nurse. I said Nurse would turn into a beast a few years back and that Benning was a bum. Still holds true. Benning is ok, as long as he is in the bottom pairing(he is just buying time for our young guys IMO). Nurse is our best defensman, and the margin will widen throughout the season. The guy is solid.
|
|
|
|
Post by mrtea on Oct 27, 2019 9:53:37 GMT -7
The best thing I can say about Benning is he is alright playing bottom pairing and I don't constantly curse at him for the boneheaded plays anymore. When we start moving out defenders he'll be gone right after Manning.
|
|
|
|
Post by neufab94 on Oct 29, 2019 8:21:52 GMT -7
In his rookie season, Nurse was seen as a potential core member of the team...since then, he has not disappointed. At 24, he has, at least, 10 more seasons in him and why not keep him here? If that means $7m x 6 then we need to pay the man. He could become the mainstay with the new defensive core coming down the pipe over the next few years. I wish that a few of the other players would adapt a little more aggression. Nurse has been great in both ends and I like the fact that he plays with an edge. A guy like Khaira could definitely take a cue.
|
|
|
|
Post by mrtea on Oct 29, 2019 10:20:34 GMT -7
In his rookie season, Nurse was seen as a potential core member of the team...since then, he has not disappointed. At 24, he has, at least, 10 more seasons in him and why not keep him here? If that means $7m x 6 then we need to pay the man. He could become the mainstay with the new defensive core coming down the pipe over the next few years. I wish that a few of the other players would adapt a little more aggression. Nurse has been great in both ends and I like the fact that he plays with an edge. A guy like Khaira could definitely take a cue. Khaira needs to rediscover what he brought up with him his first season. He fought all the time and had a nose for the net. I'd like to know why he changed playing his style.
|
|
|
|
Post by oildude on Oct 30, 2019 8:55:41 GMT -7
Thank god we have Nurse/Bear here this year, Russell/Klefbom have been a disaster of epic proportions, to the point that I would drive both to the airport right now. Nurse has earned his money, pay the man.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bronco73 on Oct 30, 2019 11:00:39 GMT -7
I think Klefbom still has a ton of potential, but I agree he's regressed this season. We absolutely need him at his best, and are not getting it.
|
|
|
|
Post by oildude on Oct 31, 2019 9:54:14 GMT -7
I think Klefbom still has a ton of potential, but I agree he's regressed this season. We absolutely need him at his best, and are not getting it. Getting Russell away from him helps. Benning is the only one that seems to settle down Rusty's game.
|
|
|
|
Post by fogolin2 on Oct 31, 2019 10:15:27 GMT -7
I think Klefbom still has a ton of potential, but I agree he's regressed this season. We absolutely need him at his best, and are not getting it. Getting Russell away from him helps. Benning is the only one that seems to settle down Rusty's game. Klef is a big softy, as he has been all along. Maybe adjusting to new role and partners is affecting him. I'm confident that he'll figure it out.
|
|
|
|
Post by oildude on Oct 31, 2019 10:19:17 GMT -7
Getting Russell away from him helps. Benning is the only one that seems to settle down Rusty's game. Klef is a big softy, as he has been all along. Maybe adjusting to new role and partners is affecting him. I'm confident that he'll figure it out. Meh, if Bear is any indication we will have better options then Klefbom in a year or two....or maybe we look more like this soon: Nurse/Bear - great duo so far Klefbom/Bouchard - real potential there Samakourov(or Jones)/Larrson - again real potential there. Either way Nurse needs major pat on the back, he is a big part of the reason why Bear has been able to transition so easily and that is a major reason he is wearing a letter this year, not only a good player but developing into a hell of a leader.
|
|
|
|
Post by fogolin2 on Oct 31, 2019 10:52:37 GMT -7
Klef is a big softy, as he has been all along. Maybe adjusting to new role and partners is affecting him. I'm confident that he'll figure it out. Meh, if Bear is any indication we will have better options then Klefbom in a year or two....or maybe we look more like this soon: Nurse/Bear - great duo so far Klefbom/Bouchard - real potential there Samakourov(or Jones)/Larrson - again real potential there. Either way Nurse needs major pat on the back, he is a big part of the reason why Bear has been able to transition so easily and that is a major reason he is wearing a letter this year, not only a good player but developing into a hell of a leader. Klef is on a good contract for a few more years. He'll be very tradeable if needed, or he can play for us. Even when he's struggling he's not terrible. At his price that is fine, and the upside that we've seen is really good. Agreed on Nurse. He's awesome and he's going to cost a lot.
|
|
|
|
Post by mrtea on Nov 1, 2019 15:38:12 GMT -7
Meh, if Bear is any indication we will have better options then Klefbom in a year or two....or maybe we look more like this soon: Nurse/Bear - great duo so far Klefbom/Bouchard - real potential there Samakourov(or Jones)/Larrson - again real potential there. Either way Nurse needs major pat on the back, he is a big part of the reason why Bear has been able to transition so easily and that is a major reason he is wearing a letter this year, not only a good player but developing into a hell of a leader. Klef is on a good contract for a few more years. He'll be very tradeable if needed, or he can play for us. Even when he's struggling he's not terrible. At his price that is fine, and the upside that we've seen is really good. Agreed on Nurse. He's awesome and he's going to cost a lot. Yeah, Nurse is earning himself a good contract and we need to keep him. Nurse has physicality to his game that is not easily found but very important to have. Nurse is bringing the whole package of offense, defense and physicality and each year he continues to get better. His experience is starting to show and as Oildude said he is allowing Bear to play at a high level knowing when to pinch and when to stay back and when there is an opportunity to rush the puck up the ice. That takes time to learn, which also makes Bear look like that special player every team wishes they had. They really work well together and Bear deserves some of that credit too.
|
|
DeutschOil
Oilers Roster
"I know a thing or two about winning" KLowe 2012ish
Posts: 163
|
Post by DeutschOil on Nov 9, 2019 17:15:47 GMT -7
Nurse has arrived as a legit top 2 defender, in my opinion.
I know there are others that say he already arrived last year, but no, he was a legit mid pairing guy last year, this year he has elevated above and beyond that, with consistency and reliability. He is a player the other team tries to navigate line changes around.
He makes moving Klefbom, if the Oilers need to find a real move, possible. But, it's going to cost money and keep the Cap tight. His raise in the off season is going to be steep.
|
|
|
|
Post by fogolin2 on Nov 10, 2019 12:48:32 GMT -7
Nurse has arrived as a legit top 2 defender, in my opinion. I know there are others that say he already arrived last year, but no, he was a legit mid pairing guy last year, this year he has elevated above and beyond that, with consistency and reliability. He is a player the other team tries to navigate line changes around. He makes moving Klefbom, if the Oilers need to find a real move, possible. But, it's going to cost money and keep the Cap tight. His raise in the off season is going to be steep. Hopefully we have a couple of more Bears in the system that will be ready to perform on the big team. We've got contracts coming off the books this offseason so KH will be able to fit Nurse. The question will be, how much and how long? Just seeing that Ethan Bear is a RFA at the end of this year. He won't be getting the base qualifying offer. Hopefully these guys enjoy playing together, and see value in sticking together. Could be a cornerstone pairing for us for years to come.
|
|
