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Post by fogolin2 on Oct 1, 2019 18:22:57 GMT -7
He can be sent down? First I’ve heard of it. I like that. He has a modified No Trade Clause. Not a “No Movement Clause”. From my understanding, NMC’s prevent trades and being sent down. NTC’s just prevent trades. I may be wrong though. Just going on my understanding of clauses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could be waived and is not exempt. Could be claimed by any team willing to take him on at full price.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Oct 1, 2019 18:23:58 GMT -7
He has a modified No Trade Clause. Not a “No Movement Clause”. From my understanding, NMC’s prevent trades and being sent down. NTC’s just prevent trades. I may be wrong though. Just going on my understanding of clauses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could be waived and is not exempt. Could be claimed by any team willing to take him on at full price. That would be a bonus. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by Messrules11 on Oct 1, 2019 18:28:21 GMT -7
He has a modified No Trade Clause. Not a “No Movement Clause”. From my understanding, NMC’s prevent trades and being sent down. NTC’s just prevent trades. I may be wrong though. Just going on my understanding of clauses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could be waived and is not exempt. Could be claimed by any team willing to take him on at full price. So your saying he clears 😆 |
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Post by Dr. Telly-Belly on Oct 1, 2019 18:31:52 GMT -7
Starrett is 26 I think, coming off a good season in the AHL and I think he deserves a few games. I think Binnington is 26 and look how he helped turn the Blues around. Smith will get hurt, Kos will suck and we’ll see what we got down there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Agreed. It will happen.
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Post by oilyfan on Oct 1, 2019 21:00:58 GMT -7
He has a modified No Trade Clause. Not a “No Movement Clause”. From my understanding, NMC’s prevent trades and being sent down. NTC’s just prevent trades. I may be wrong though. Just going on my understanding of clauses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Could be waived and is not exempt. Could be claimed by any team willing to take him on at full price. That would be sweet but can't see how or a why a team would claim him. I'd like to think he'd go down there and fix his glove hand, but more than likely this is what we got and he'll be bought out of the last year of his deal. Maybe Skinner will be ready by then?
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Oct 1, 2019 21:02:13 GMT -7
Could be waived and is not exempt. Could be claimed by any team willing to take him on at full price. That would be sweet but can't see how or a why a team would claim him. I'd like to think he'd go down there and fix his glove hand, but more than likely this is what we got and he'll be bought out of the last year of his deal. Maybe Skinner will be ready by then? If Skinner worked his Fogolin2 off, I don’t see why he can’t be ready in 2 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by rapiershot on Oct 2, 2019 8:11:17 GMT -7
According to Tippett, he's prepared to split the workload around 50-32 (approx) which means that workload should not be an issue (one of Kosk's problems last season). As such, we shouldn't be seeing back-to-back game problems, lack of coaching/practice times, and minor injury recoveries.
There's no doubt in my mind that Starrett will get some games if we're out of the playoff picture (keeping in mind his importance to the Condors).
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Post by Messrules11 on Oct 2, 2019 12:13:34 GMT -7
According to Tippett, he's prepared to split the workload around 50-32 (approx) which means that workload should not be an issue (one of Kosk's problems last season). As such, we shouldn't be seeing back-to-back game problems, lack of coaching/practice times, and minor injury recoveries. There's no doubt in my mind that Starrett will get some games if we're out of the playoff picture (keeping in mind his importance to the Condors). Kos played around 50 last year and that was too much for him. How is this scenario any different? |
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Post by BoomnotBust on Oct 2, 2019 13:05:20 GMT -7
According to Tippett, he's prepared to split the workload around 50-32 (approx) which means that workload should not be an issue (one of Kosk's problems last season). As such, we shouldn't be seeing back-to-back game problems, lack of coaching/practice times, and minor injury recoveries. There's no doubt in my mind that Starrett will get some games if we're out of the playoff picture (keeping in mind his importance to the Condors). Kos played around 50 last year and that was too much for him. How is this scenario any different? Maybe he'll be the one playing 32. If I was betting I would bet that Smith will get more starts this year.
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Post by rapiershot on Oct 2, 2019 15:50:25 GMT -7
Yeah....Smith draws the heavier load. With Smith's puck handling abilities, he makes our end less busy. Just hoping he doesn't end up injured.
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Post by fogolin2 on Oct 9, 2019 9:46:30 GMT -7
Well, what do y'all think? Do we come back with Koskinen against the Devils?
I thought he settled down after being shaky to start last night's game. Made some good saves, one kick save stands out in my memory, but did have a few firedrill moments too. IMO, we should start him again tomorrow.
I feel like Smith being on the bench won't affect him negatively as much as the good it would to get Koskinen going and feeling confident. If we want them to compete, then we need to make it a true competition.
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Post by unrefinedcrude on Oct 9, 2019 10:34:08 GMT -7
Well, what do y'all think? Do we come back with Koskinen against the Devils? I thought he settled down after being shaky to start last night's game. Made some good saves, one kick save stands out in my memory, but did have a few firedrill moments too. IMO, we should start him again tomorrow. I feel like Smith being on the bench won't affect him negatively as much as the good it would to get Koskinen going and feeling confident. If we want them to compete, then we need to make it a true competition. Koski against the Devils, who are limping right now. Smith against the Rangers, though he wasn't sharp in his second start I really liked his game on opening night. I think he just made a couple gaffs and it got in his head, he steadied out as the night went on.
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Post by blackhawk216 on Oct 9, 2019 13:46:39 GMT -7
Well, what do y'all think? Do we come back with Koskinen against the Devils? I thought he settled down after being shaky to start last night's game. Made some good saves, one kick save stands out in my memory, but did have a few firedrill moments too. IMO, we should start him again tomorrow. I feel like Smith being on the bench won't affect him negatively as much as the good it would to get Koskinen going and feeling confident. If we want them to compete, then we need to make it a true competition. Koski against the Devils, who are limping right now. Smith against the Rangers, though he wasn't sharp in his second start I really liked his game on opening night. I think he just made a couple gaffs and it got in his head, he steadied out as the night went on. Kosk v Devils agreed and then unless Kosk gets a shut out, I think Smith v the Rangers. If both goalies are playing roughly equally in terms of results, two games on and then two games rest to me would be ideal. I realise for a variety of reasons that won't be possible all season, but as a general rule with some flexibility, it is a philosophy that could work. Maybe if one of the goalies pulls away from the other in terms of form/results, he could play 3 of 4 or similar. I think all things being equal, the main concern (other than results of course) is to keep both goalies as fresh and hence hopefully injury free for as long as possible. I think we are all in agreement that Kosk was overplayed last season, and Smith would be in danger of being overplayed if he took on much more than 50% of the games, or maybe 50 actual games. The phrase "handle with care" comes into mind for both goalies. Luckily we have a coach and a GM that do have a clue!
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Post by fogolin2 on Oct 9, 2019 14:28:35 GMT -7
Well, what do y'all think? Do we come back with Koskinen against the Devils? I thought he settled down after being shaky to start last night's game. Made some good saves, one kick save stands out in my memory, but did have a few firedrill moments too. IMO, we should start him again tomorrow. I feel like Smith being on the bench won't affect him negatively as much as the good it would to get Koskinen going and feeling confident. If we want them to compete, then we need to make it a true competition. Koski against the Devils, who are limping right now. Smith against the Rangers, though he wasn't sharp in his second start I really liked his game on opening night. I think he just made a couple gaffs and it got in his head, he steadied out as the night went on. Just realized that the Devils will be playing the second game of a b2b. Perfect spot to keep Koskinen going. Rangers start tbd |
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Post by Bronco73 on Oct 9, 2019 16:10:15 GMT -7
Historically this team craps the bed against teams on game 2 of b2b... let's hope our new coaching staff can light the fires.
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Post by unrefinedcrude on Oct 9, 2019 16:41:53 GMT -7
My personal feeling is that our team has burned out goalies in the past. This year we seem to have a dedication to team play, and hustle that we haven't seen for a long time.
Although we have question marks in net for sure, I think we'll get better results if the team actually helps them out for a change.
We've had a few goalies start out hot here and get beaten down. Only Khabibulin managed to hang on very long.
Poor roster composition magnified all prior goaltending issues.
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Post by mrtea on Oct 9, 2019 17:34:41 GMT -7
My personal feeling is that our team has burned out goalies in the past. This year we seem to have a dedication to team play, and hustle that we haven't seen for a long time. Although we have question marks in net for sure, I think we'll get better results if the team actually helps them out for a change. We've had a few goalies start out hot here and get beaten down. Only Khabibulin managed to hang on very long. Poor roster composition magnified all prior goaltending issues. We do need to help out our tenders on a more consistent basis, that's for sure. I think Smith will emerge as the 1a and Kos as the 1b but in a perfect world they would be a tandem playing 50/50. It's been a long time you unrefined crude oiler fan, I've often wondered why we weren't hearing from you on the old boards. Theses boards are better, hope to hear from you more in the future.
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Post by drtaf on Oct 9, 2019 18:29:36 GMT -7
Koski against the Devils, who are limping right now. Smith against the Rangers, though he wasn't sharp in his second start I really liked his game on opening night. I think he just made a couple gaffs and it got in his head, he steadied out as the night went on. Kosk v Devils agreed and then unless Kosk gets a shut out, I think Smith v the Rangers. If both goalies are playing roughly equally in terms of results, two games on and then two games rest to me would be ideal. I realise for a variety of reasons that won't be possible all season, but as a general rule with some flexibility, it is a philosophy that could work. Maybe if one of the goalies pulls away from the other in terms of form/results, he could play 3 of 4 or similar. I think all things being equal, the main concern (other than results of course) is to keep both goalies as fresh and hence hopefully injury free for as long as possible. I think we are all in agreement that Kosk was overplayed last season, and Smith would be in danger of being overplayed if he took on much more than 50% of the games, or maybe 50 actual games. The phrase "handle with care" comes into mind for both goalies. Luckily we have a coach and a GM that do have a clue! This sums it up perfectly and so far neither have been brilliant or awful, so until one of them grabs the reins or craps the bed, alternating every 2 games or so seems ideal. If I had to place a wager, I'd say Koskinen is likely to break the cycle, I just can't decide whether that will be by crapping the bed or standing on his head?? (Hope it's the latter)!
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Post by fogolin2 on Oct 10, 2019 20:30:56 GMT -7
Kosko .914 2.42
Smith .844 5.01
After only 2 games each, and FOUR WINS, I'm not sure it means anything but will be interesting to follow their progress.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Oct 10, 2019 20:32:50 GMT -7
Kosko .914 2.42 Smith .844 5.01 After only 2 games each, and FOUR WINS, I'm not sure it means anything but will be interesting to follow their progress. Kosk started strong last season too  . He did finish the season above .500 too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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