|
Post by SuperDave17 on Dec 8, 2021 20:53:29 GMT -7
I was just talking about this with a couple of other Oilers fans. Ok, let's get this out of the way. If Kane is still an immature manchild with no sense of ethics and all the rest of it, I wouldn't want him anywhere near our locker room.
But ... But ...
If somebody can somehow someway get through to him to grow up, pull his pants up, and give it a real go with a team first mindset ...
Kane's toolbox is EXACTLY what we need to round out a complete top 6. He can throw down, score, grind, etc. etc.
Should Ken even be thinking of this?
Man, this is a tough one ...
If it happens, the Sharks are just going to have to swallow the hard pill of retention. I can't imagine them having a lot of takers. And Kane can pretty much decide where he goes with his 3 team clause.
|
|
|
Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Dec 8, 2021 20:56:10 GMT -7
I’m on board if he can clean up his act.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Post by blackhawk216 on Dec 8, 2021 21:10:29 GMT -7
I was just talking about this with a couple of other Oilers fans. Ok, let's get this out of the way. If Kane is still an immature manchild with no sense of ethics and all the rest of it, I wouldn't want him anywhere near our locker room. But ... But ... If somebody can somehow someway get through to him to grow up, pull his pants up, and give it a real go with a team first mindset ... Kane's toolbox is EXACTLY what we need to round out a complete top 6. He can throw down, score, grind, etc. etc. Should Ken even be thinking of this? Man, this is a tough one ... If it happens, the Sharks are just going to have to swallow the hard pill of retention. I can't imagine them having a lot of takers. And Kane can pretty much decide where he goes with his 3 team clause. Let me think about this.....Kane, 264 goals/242 assists for a total of 506 pts, 7 x 20 or more goal seasons (inc 2 of 30 gls), 6'2"/210 lbs and can be quite nasty on occasions. Yammo, 58 pts all told, 5' 8"/153 lbs, (just 6 pts so far this season in 24 outings), wouldn't hurt a fly, (not a criticism just a fact). OK, I have thought about it.........I will take Kane, warts and all ........or anyone else who doesn't mind hurting flies!
|
|
|
Post by yuke on Dec 8, 2021 21:43:02 GMT -7
I was just talking about this with a couple of other Oilers fans. Ok, let's get this out of the way. If Kane is still an immature manchild with no sense of ethics and all the rest of it, I wouldn't want him anywhere near our locker room. But ... But ... If somebody can somehow someway get through to him to grow up, pull his pants up, and give it a real go with a team first mindset ... Kane's toolbox is EXACTLY what we need to round out a complete top 6. He can throw down, score, grind, etc. etc. Should Ken even be thinking of this? Man, this is a tough one ... If it happens, the Sharks are just going to have to swallow the hard pill of retention. I can't imagine them having a lot of takers. And Kane can pretty much decide where he goes with his 3 team clause. Kane, LW, 30, $7 million for this and 3 more years. Been a team blemish and league Fogolin2 for 13 years. Not a chance. Now if he was a UFA and would sign a 1 year show me contract, I'd say try it out
|
|
|
Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Dec 8, 2021 21:43:50 GMT -7
I was just talking about this with a couple of other Oilers fans. Ok, let's get this out of the way. If Kane is still an immature manchild with no sense of ethics and all the rest of it, I wouldn't want him anywhere near our locker room. But ... But ... If somebody can somehow someway get through to him to grow up, pull his pants up, and give it a real go with a team first mindset ... Kane's toolbox is EXACTLY what we need to round out a complete top 6. He can throw down, score, grind, etc. etc. Should Ken even be thinking of this? Man, this is a tough one ... If it happens, the Sharks are just going to have to swallow the hard pill of retention. I can't imagine them having a lot of takers. And Kane can pretty much decide where he goes with his 3 team clause. Kane, LW, 30, $7 million for this and 3 more years. Been a team blemish and league Fogolin2 for 13 years. Not a chance. Now if he was a UFA and would sign a 1 year show me contract, I'd say try it out Insiders say SJ would be willing to retain 50%. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
|
Post by AlwaysOil on Dec 8, 2021 21:56:51 GMT -7
Kassian was a rehab that worked out for awhile. Think this is similar. From a risk reward, if SJ retains 50% I’d say do it. Price will likely never be lower and the players last shot realization is probably there.
|
|
south
Bakersfield Roster
Posts: 83
|
Post by south on Dec 9, 2021 4:36:11 GMT -7
As stated in earlier posts, the issue with Kane is not individual talent nor porential productivity. It is all about his attitude, off ice theatrics and total lack of 'team first' commitment. Money aside, I think the Oilers have been pretty careful about dressing room chemistry and who they add to the roster via trade or draft. I just don't see Kane as anything but a distraction and unwilling to do a 180 with his attitude. There is a reason teams view him as a cancer, stay away!
|
|
|
Post by sharptooth on Dec 9, 2021 4:45:04 GMT -7
The guy is an idiot and I don’t think he will ever change. This would be an easy decision for me. PASS!!
|
|
|
Post by discostew on Dec 9, 2021 9:30:48 GMT -7
If Sharks eat half his salary id trade him for Kassian. At 3.5 for 3 seasons its not a huge risk. If he Kuzmenkos up again we just waive him and someone else would likely still claim him at 3.5
|
|
|
Post by blackhawk216 on Dec 9, 2021 9:43:28 GMT -7
I was just talking about this with a couple of other Oilers fans. Ok, let's get this out of the way. If Kane is still an immature manchild with no sense of ethics and all the rest of it, I wouldn't want him anywhere near our locker room. But ... But ... If somebody can somehow someway get through to him to grow up, pull his pants up, and give it a real go with a team first mindset ... Kane's toolbox is EXACTLY what we need to round out a complete top 6. He can throw down, score, grind, etc. etc. Should Ken even be thinking of this? Man, this is a tough one ... If it happens, the Sharks are just going to have to swallow the hard pill of retention. I can't imagine them having a lot of takers. And Kane can pretty much decide where he goes with his 3 team clause. Kane, LW, 30, $7 million for this and 3 more years. Been a team blemish and league Fogolin2 for 13 years. Not a chance. Now if he was a UFA and would sign a 1 year show me contract, I'd say try it out Did you miss the bit about sharks retention yuke? No one in their right mind would offer to take that contract, hence "retention".
|
|
|
Post by igibb on Dec 9, 2021 9:43:43 GMT -7
If Sharks eat half his salary id trade him for Kassian. At 3.5 for 3 seasons its not a huge risk. If he Flames sucks up again we just waive him and someone else would likely still claim him at 3.5 And if they don't, because it has become obvious that he is a Flames suck up that will never change, you are stuck with $2.4 million of dead cap space for two more years. Kass has a substance abuse problem Kane is just an idiot with a huge ego. Pass
|
|
|
Post by discostew on Dec 9, 2021 9:59:50 GMT -7
I dont think Kane's on ice performance has been much of an issue. So if he does something stupid outside of hockey you might not be on the hook for the cap. Again Kane would have to want to come here he can pretty much Kuzmenko San jose over ala Heatley so its probably a mute point. But how many goals could Kane get with Drai and Mcdavid and to a lesser extent RNH.
|
|
|
Post by discostew on Dec 9, 2021 10:11:39 GMT -7
Maybe Kassian needs a change of scenery again, maybe being a dad took the "crazy" out of him. But if they eat half Kane's salary it's almost the same cap hit. Yes Kane is 1 extra year but its still a risk id be on board with. But it would a question Holland should ask Tippett Mcdavid, Drai and Nurse.
But Kuzmenko those top 2 lines
|
|
|
Post by windsoroiler on Dec 9, 2021 11:31:00 GMT -7
I want Kane on this team but at 50% retained. Not being in the limelight will help his game just like Demelo helping his game (know as being racist or hard to get along with) even with guys like Bear on his team.
I would trade both Yams and Kass or Feogele if needed. Nothing more. Kane would probably want to prove alot of people wrong and want to re energize his NHL career
Would think hard on it for sure
|
|
|
Post by yuke on Dec 9, 2021 11:31:38 GMT -7
Kane, LW, 30, $7 million for this and 3 more years. Been a team blemish and league Fogolin2 for 13 years. Not a chance. Now if he was a UFA and would sign a 1 year show me contract, I'd say try it out Did you miss the bit about sharks retention yuke? No one in their right mind would offer to take that contract, hence "retention". Obviously you missed the UFA part. Please do not respond to my posts
|
|
|
Post by yuke on Dec 9, 2021 11:38:46 GMT -7
I want Kane on this team but at 50% retained. Not being in the limelight will help his game just like Demelo helping his game (know as being racist or hard to get along with) even with guys like Bear on his team. I would trade both Yams and Kass or Feogele if needed. Nothing more. Kane would probably want to prove alot of people wrong and want to re energize his NHL career Would think hard on it for sure Jets, Sabres now Sharks have given him a chance, he still walks to the beat of his own drum.
|
|
|
Post by blackhawk216 on Dec 9, 2021 12:36:53 GMT -7
Did you miss the bit about sharks retention yuke? No one in their right mind would offer to take that contract, hence "retention". Obviously you missed the UFA part. Please do not respond to my posts You did miss the "retention" part of Super Dave's post didn't you or why mention 7m contract? And why bring up UFA when he isn't one? Nothing you post seems to make sense. Also, I will respond to whatever I read on here, either agreeing or disagreeing...... without guidance from you thanks. And if that gets me banned, so be it! .
|
|
|
Post by drtaf on Dec 9, 2021 12:49:12 GMT -7
I'm not sure the Oilers core leadership, even with Keith, can contain the antics of Kane. A club that can though is tonight's opponent. I'm not sure but does a 3-way deal make most sense? They swap kane with 50% retained salary for Debrusk and we offer Yam and/or Kass to SJ for Debrusk? SJ get reliable hardworking Yam + sometimes engaged, but now a problem-free kass for ~same amount of money as Kane. Bruins get Kane who would likely fit in, behave and be dynamite for them and we get Debrusk who has a chance to really shine, or otherwise go play someplace else after the end of the season and we get the cap relief?
|
|
|
Post by igibb on Dec 9, 2021 13:19:30 GMT -7
I want Kane on this team but at 50% retained. Not being in the limelight will help his game just like Demelo helping his game (know as being racist or hard to get along with) even with guys like Bear on his team. I would trade both Yams and Kass or Feogele if needed. Nothing more. Kane would probably want to prove alot of people wrong and want to re energize his NHL career Would think hard on it for sure Out of the limelight? He is in a market now where he is virtually anonymous and would be coming to a market that the only sport anyone really cares about for 7 months of the year is hockey. His every move would be scrutinized on a daily basis here.
|
|
|
Post by drtaf on Dec 9, 2021 14:37:29 GMT -7
I want Kane on this team but at 50% retained. Not being in the limelight will help his game just like Demelo helping his game (know as being racist or hard to get along with) even with guys like Bear on his team. I would trade both Yams and Kass or Feogele if needed. Nothing more. Kane would probably want to prove alot of people wrong and want to re energize his NHL career Would think hard on it for sure Out of the limelight? He is in a market now where he is virtually anonymous and would be coming to a market that the only sport anyone really cares about for 7 months of the year is hockey. His every move would be scrutinized on a daily basis here. Kinda agree, Kane would be under the microscope here. It would be very hard (Impossible) for him to "fly under the radar" in Edmonton off the ice IMO.
|
|