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Post by drtaf on Oct 5, 2019 1:45:08 GMT -7
... ahem, Dion Phaneuf, ahem... You're kidding right???
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Post by fogolin2 on Jun 11, 2020 19:46:06 GMT -7
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Post by toley on Jun 12, 2020 5:28:55 GMT -7
He's stuck with the Oilers til he shows he can play in the NHL. *edit is their(Puljujarvi) game to be exposed in the expansion draft, and taken by Seattle? 🤔
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Post by SuperDave17 on Jul 27, 2020 13:35:24 GMT -7
Not sure what to make of this:
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 27, 2020 13:46:37 GMT -7
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Post by Dr. Telly-Belly on Jul 27, 2020 13:51:01 GMT -7
JP is gone in my thoughts. He never showed me anything to desire him on the Oilers. Maybe maturity might change things but frankly, I would let him go. It was a bad choice from the beginning.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 27, 2020 13:52:13 GMT -7
JP is gone in my thoughts. He never showed me anything to desire him on the Oilers. Maybe maturity might change things but frankly, I would let him go. It was a bad choice from the beginning. JP is gone in my thoughts when his RFA status with us has ran out.
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 27, 2020 14:27:28 GMT -7
It is quite interesting that along with KH coach Tippett has been involved in these convos with JP and his agent, so that does raise an eyebrow.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 10:42:00 GMT -7
JP is gone in my thoughts. He never showed me anything to desire him on the Oilers. Maybe maturity might change things but frankly, I would let him go. It was a bad choice from the beginning. JP Update: Jesse Puljujarvi talked to Tampere Iltalehti, his strongest statement yet that he’s backed off the notion he’ll never again play for the Edmonton Oilers and is thinking of coming back: “You can never say no. I have grown and I see things a little differently. There’s now a different GM and head coach out there. Build a winning team in Edmonton. It may be possible that I will still be playing there.”
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Post by Bronco73 on Jul 29, 2020 11:18:57 GMT -7
JP is gone in my thoughts. He never showed me anything to desire him on the Oilers. Maybe maturity might change things but frankly, I would let him go. It was a bad choice from the beginning. JP Update: Jesse Puljujarvi talked to Tampere Iltalehti, his strongest statement yet that he’s backed off the notion he’ll never again play for the Edmonton Oilers and is thinking of coming back: “You can never say no. I have grown and I see things a little differently. There’s now a different GM and head coach out there. Build a winning team in Edmonton. It may be possible that I will still be playing there.” Wow now that's very interesting. My bet is he wants to come back to show his talents and garner NHL interest in him so he can move to another team. I wouldn't be adverse to bringing him back but it would be an incredible short leash.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 11:32:39 GMT -7
JP Update: Jesse Puljujarvi talked to Tampere Iltalehti, his strongest statement yet that he’s backed off the notion he’ll never again play for the Edmonton Oilers and is thinking of coming back: “You can never say no. I have grown and I see things a little differently. There’s now a different GM and head coach out there. Build a winning team in Edmonton. It may be possible that I will still be playing there.” Wow now that's very interesting. My bet is he wants to come back to show his talents and garner NHL interest in him so he can move to another team. I wouldn't be adverse to bringing him back but it would be an incredible short leash. It could also be that he's grown up a bit and realizes that he overreacted, and that this management and coaching is different than before.
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Post by mrtea on Jul 29, 2020 11:59:42 GMT -7
Puljujarvi's an asset. If that asset can help us then we should use it. If he doesn't live up to expectations or even be useful then we should not feel obligated to gift him a roster spot. On the other hand maybe he will actually fit in somewhere. It would be nice to end this soap opera .....after a word from our sponsor.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 12:05:07 GMT -7
Puljujarvi's an asset. If that asset can help us then we should use it. If he doesn't live up to expectations or even be useful then we should not feel obligated to gift him a roster spot. On the other hand maybe he will actually fit in somewhere. It would be nice to end this soap opera .....after a word from our sponsor. If he's ready to put the work in to earn a spot, I'm ALL for it. He's a big sniper winger, that's one thing we need.
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Post by SuperDave17 on Jul 29, 2020 12:24:17 GMT -7
Lavoie will also soon be knocking on the door. So JP will soon have something he didn't really have before, RW competition. It's up to him whether he wants to grow into a top-flight RW, plateau as a still useful bottom six RW, or continue on the way he's been and play himself out of the NHL. The ball will be in his court.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 12:27:39 GMT -7
Lavoie will also soon be knocking on the door. So JP will soon have something he didn't really have before, RW competition. It's up to him whether he wants to grow into a top-flight RW, plateau as a still useful bottom six RW, or continue on the way he's been and play himself out of the NHL. The ball will be in his court. RW depth of Kass, Yamo, Lavoie, and JP could be VERY deadly going forward.
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Post by drtaf on Jul 29, 2020 12:50:09 GMT -7
Does anyone else see similarities between AA and JP? Once again i watched AA last night for signs of fitting in or chemistry and he just doesn't? The skill is not in question but can these guys think at a level where they can fit into a team concept and be contributors to a winning culture and team? open question?
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 13:06:12 GMT -7
Does anyone else see similarities between AA and JP? Once again i watched AA last night for signs of fitting in or chemistry and he just doesn't? The skill is not in question but can these guys think at a level where they can fit into a team concept and be contributors to a winning culture and team? open question? I mean AA got 54 points, 30 goals, last season. I don't think he can't think at a level where he can fit into a team concept... There ZERO chance he could have got 54 points if he didn't know how to play on a team. He was above 0.5ppg this season before being traded. Maybe he's having trouble with Tip's system?
JP, he was (still is?) a brat that was home sick from the start. He himself admitted he was crazy home sick the whole time he was here. Him thinking he was more ready than he was, plus the home sick thing, greatly contributed to his lack of success here. If Chiarelli sent him directly to Finland after being drafted for a year or two, maybe three, I bet JP would we with us right now playing. Imagine if he was three years more mature, and had his rookie season this season with us? We know he can play on a winning team. Karpat finished 1st in the top Finnish league. JP was leading scorer of that team, and 4th overall in the league.
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Post by Dr. Telly-Belly on Jul 29, 2020 13:36:30 GMT -7
I still maintain that JP is gone. He showed nothing that I desire for the Oilers. If he at least showed something and played the fool, then there would be reason but he is not attractive in the least. Let the ship pass.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 29, 2020 13:45:18 GMT -7
I still maintain that JP is gone. He showed nothing that I desire for the Oilers. If he at least showed something and played the fool, then there would be reason but he is not attractive in the least. Let the ship pass. To each their own, we can all respect your opinion. I wouldn't write off a kid so quickly. In my eyes, that would be like a teacher disregarding a misbehaving student claiming him as dumb.
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Post by Dr. Telly-Belly on Jul 29, 2020 17:40:47 GMT -7
I still maintain that JP is gone. He showed nothing that I desire for the Oilers. If he at least showed something and played the fool, then there would be reason but he is not attractive in the least. Let the ship pass. To each their own, we can all respect your opinion. I wouldn't write off a kid so quickly. In my eyes, that would be like a teacher disregarding a misbehaving student claiming him as dumb. Hi behavior is not primarily the reason I gave up on him. His play was less than impressive for such a high pick. He showed little understanding of the game. What complicated his future was his behavior that refused to learn. I saw nothing in his play that warranted wasting a high pick on him.
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