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Post by neufab94 on Nov 8, 2019 19:48:28 GMT -7
As someone who had relatives in WW2 I have a great respect for the fact that many young men lost their lives on the front lines in the World Wars and in honor of them the anthem included "in all thy son's command." The current rendition is not one that I can sing for the reason that it was slammed through Parliament while other more pressing issues were dominating the discussion. What was once an anthem I respected has become one that has the stench of politics.
I know many men and women who were never offended by the previous rendition. I have the utmost respect for our male and female troops and have known some great people in our armed forces. I fully support equality, however the way that the anthem was changed I believe diminishes the sacrifices our troops made. For this reason, I no longer sing our national anthem, and when it is playing on tv I press mute.
Maybe I am an idealist, however, things that are sacred and honorable deserve due process and attention. Matters of low importance don't. End rant.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 8, 2019 23:04:03 GMT -7
As someone who had relatives in WW2 I have a great respect for the fact that many young men lost their lives on the front lines in the World Wars and in honor of them the anthem included "in all thy son's command." The current rendition is not one that I can sing for the reason that it was slammed through Parliament while other more pressing issues were dominating the discussion. What was once an anthem I respected has become one that has the stench of politics. I know many men and women who were never offended by the previous rendition. I have the utmost respect for our male and female troops and have known some great people in our armed forces. I fully support equality, however the way that the anthem was changed I believe diminishes the sacrifices our troops made. For this reason, I no longer sing our national anthem, and when it is playing on tv I press mute. Maybe I am an idealist, however, things that are sacred and honorable deserve due process and attention. Matters of low importance don't. End rant. Well, to be totally fair, the original Anthem was closer to what it is now, "thou dost in us command". They changed to "All Thy Sons Command" in 1913 to recruit for WW1.
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 13, 2019 16:26:15 GMT -7
As someone who had relatives in WW2 I have a great respect for the fact that many young men lost their lives on the front lines in the World Wars and in honor of them the anthem included "in all thy son's command." The current rendition is not one that I can sing for the reason that it was slammed through Parliament while other more pressing issues were dominating the discussion. What was once an anthem I respected has become one that has the stench of politics. I know many men and women who were never offended by the previous rendition. I have the utmost respect for our male and female troops and have known some great people in our armed forces. I fully support equality, however the way that the anthem was changed I believe diminishes the sacrifices our troops made. For this reason, I no longer sing our national anthem, and when it is playing on tv I press mute. Maybe I am an idealist, however, things that are sacred and honorable deserve due process and attention. Matters of low importance don't. End rant. I agree Neuf. Political correctness is getting way out of hand imo. And the new line "True patriot love in all of us command." What the hell is that? It doesn't sound right and makes no grammatical sense. If we're going to cater and politicize it, what about the mention of God in its lyrics? Isn't that extremely insensitive to all agnostics and atheists? And God is male, right? Shouldn't it at least be altered to refer to God as some sort of androgynous, shemale omnipotent being? How's that for a rant?
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Post by mrtea on Nov 13, 2019 18:25:20 GMT -7
As someone who had relatives in WW2 I have a great respect for the fact that many young men lost their lives on the front lines in the World Wars and in honor of them the anthem included "in all thy son's command." The current rendition is not one that I can sing for the reason that it was slammed through Parliament while other more pressing issues were dominating the discussion. What was once an anthem I respected has become one that has the stench of politics. I know many men and women who were never offended by the previous rendition. I have the utmost respect for our male and female troops and have known some great people in our armed forces. I fully support equality, however the way that the anthem was changed I believe diminishes the sacrifices our troops made. For this reason, I no longer sing our national anthem, and when it is playing on tv I press mute. Maybe I am an idealist, however, things that are sacred and honorable deserve due process and attention. Matters of low importance don't. End rant. I agree Neuf. Political correctness is getting way out of hand imo. And the new line "True patriot love in all of us command." What the hell is that? It doesn't sound right and makes no grammatical sense. If we're going to cater and politicize it, what about the mention of God in its lyrics? Isn't that extremely insensitive to all agnostics and atheists? And God is male, right? Shouldn't it at least be altered to refer to God as some sort of androgynous, shemale omnipotent being? How's that for a rant? You should run for politics.
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 13, 2019 21:23:28 GMT -7
I agree Neuf. Political correctness is getting way out of hand imo. And the new line "True patriot love in all of us command." What the hell is that? It doesn't sound right and makes no grammatical sense. If we're going to cater and politicize it, what about the mention of God in its lyrics? Isn't that extremely insensitive to all agnostics and atheists? And God is male, right? Shouldn't it at least be altered to refer to God as some sort of androgynous, shemale omnipotent being? How's that for a rant? You should run for politics. Vote for Groovey!
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Post by neufab94 on Nov 15, 2019 1:11:07 GMT -7
As someone who had relatives in WW2 I have a great respect for the fact that many young men lost their lives on the front lines in the World Wars and in honor of them the anthem included "in all thy son's command." The current rendition is not one that I can sing for the reason that it was slammed through Parliament while other more pressing issues were dominating the discussion. What was once an anthem I respected has become one that has the stench of politics. I know many men and women who were never offended by the previous rendition. I have the utmost respect for our male and female troops and have known some great people in our armed forces. I fully support equality, however the way that the anthem was changed I believe diminishes the sacrifices our troops made. For this reason, I no longer sing our national anthem, and when it is playing on tv I press mute. Maybe I am an idealist, however, things that are sacred and honorable deserve due process and attention. Matters of low importance don't. End rant. I agree Neuf. Political correctness is getting way out of hand imo. And the new line "True patriot love in all of us command." What the hell is that? It doesn't sound right and makes no grammatical sense. If we're going to cater and politicize it, what about the mention of God in its lyrics? Isn't that extremely insensitive to all agnostics and atheists? And God is male, right? Shouldn't it at least be altered to refer to God as some sort of androgynous, shemale omnipotent being? How's that for a rant? The new rendition: O Canada Our home and multicultural land True patriot acceptance and tolerance In all of us command according to legislation With glowing hearts We see the rise The true north strong and mostly free From far and wide O Canada High ranking officials, people with legal weapons permits and military personnel Stand on guard for the Authorized people keep our land Without too much carbon emissions O Canada high ranking officials people with legal weapons and military personnel stand on guard for the O Canada high ranking officials people with legal weapons and military personnel stand on guard for the. Is that politically correct enough?
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Post by neufab94 on Nov 15, 2019 1:13:02 GMT -7
Just need an opera singer to execute it
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Post by sharptooth on Nov 15, 2019 8:32:14 GMT -7
Lol
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 15, 2019 12:33:07 GMT -7
I agree Neuf. Political correctness is getting way out of hand imo. And the new line "True patriot love in all of us command." What the hell is that? It doesn't sound right and makes no grammatical sense. If we're going to cater and politicize it, what about the mention of God in its lyrics? Isn't that extremely insensitive to all agnostics and atheists? And God is male, right? Shouldn't it at least be altered to refer to God as some sort of androgynous, shemale omnipotent being? How's that for a rant? The new rendition: O Canada Our home and multicultural land True patriot acceptance and tolerance In all of us command according to legislation With glowing hearts We see the rise The true north strong and mostly free From far and wide O Canada High ranking officials, people with legal weapons permits and military personnel Stand on guard for the Authorized people keep our land Without too much carbon emissions O Canada high ranking officials people with legal weapons and military personnel stand on guard for the O Canada high ranking officials people with legal weapons and military personnel stand on guard for the. Is that politically correct enough? Excellent! If you are not a political satirist already, you missed your calling.
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Post by nocchi on Nov 16, 2019 11:30:06 GMT -7
I lived in Toronto when this change was being contemplated.
On Canada Day, maybe 4-5 years back, Carolyn Bennett, Liberal MP for the riding had a park get together close-by, open to the public. It was a nice day, and 'free' hot dogs were to be had, so wifey and I decided to check it out.
The hotdogs were late to the party - a line of about 200 people had formed. The line stayed on the shade, far from where Bennett and her buddies were speaking, to a crowd of a few dozen people. One of them went on Rob Ford-esque rant about Rob Ford. A middle-aged Aboriginal man sat far away on a picnic bench, sporadically shouting expletives at everyone. I only mention his ethnicity to paint a full picture. Just an angry man who happened to be there, or abuse victim lashing out at all things Canada, I wondered.
Bennett got to the part where it was time to sing the 'new' anthem. Like a school teacher, she first explained the change, and then made sure the crowd knew when to sing the new part when it was coming during a sing-along, as though we were all naive children. I think only Bennett and her buddies were singing.
It was a surreal experience. The hot dogs arrived; we went home and had some beers. Can't remember what we cooked, but I'm sure it was better than publicly-funded hotdogs.
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 17, 2019 14:19:03 GMT -7
I lived in Toronto when this change was being contemplated. On Canada Day, maybe 4-5 years back, Carolyn Bennett, Liberal MP for the riding had a park get together close-by, open to the public. It was a nice day, and 'free' hot dogs were to be had, so wifey and I decided to check it out. The hotdogs were late to the party - a line of about 200 people had formed. The line stayed on the shade, far from where Bennett and her buddies were speaking, to a crowd of a few dozen people. One of them went on Rob Ford-esque rant about Rob Ford. A middle-aged Aboriginal man sat far away on a picnic bench, sporadically shouting expletives at everyone. I only mention his ethnicity to paint a full picture. Just an angry man who happened to be there, or abuse victim lashing out at all things Canada, I wondered. Bennett got to the part where it was time to sing the 'new' anthem. Like a school teacher, she first explained the change, and then made sure the crowd knew when to sing the new part when it was coming during a sing-along, as though we were all naive children. I think only Bennett and her buddies were singing. It was a surreal experience. The hot dogs arrived; we went home and had some beers. Can't remember what we cooked, but I'm sure it was better than publicly-funded hotdogs. I'm truly sorry to hear about that. You know, that you lived in Toronto.
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