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Post by FloridaAltFan on Oct 26, 2022 10:18:12 GMT -7
I think the Canucks future is more intreging than that of both Alberta clubs.
There are people in Vancouver that want to blow the team up to get a good pick in the end of season draft.
I disagree, to an extent, if they're losing with the lineup they have now then why blow it up to have a turn around? The team is losing with the present lineup.
It is public knowledge there is discontent in the dressing room with the on ice antics at the end of another loss. 2 veterans yelling at each other.
It doesn't make sense to me why Vancouver is struggling right now. Good tender, defense is less than average especially with Hughes out, but the forwards have stars underperforming like Miller, Horvat, or Petterson. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in their dressing room. Perhaps its Boudreau trying to get a more offensive club to play a defensive identity. Much like the Oil had in Tippett or McLellan, the Oil are not built for a more defensive type of club.
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Post by Bronco73 on Oct 26, 2022 14:33:26 GMT -7
Yup. The Canucks are going to be interesting to watch. They have some very good pieces there and I agree, if they continue to lose the smarter course is to do nothing, let them tank on their own.
Conversely though they *COULD* get some good picks for the a few of their guys now. A complete rebuild could be smarter off to start with a clean slate
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Post by AlwaysOil on Oct 26, 2022 23:03:52 GMT -7
100% agree CAF.
They have invested in Miller and Demko. Not sure how you tear it all down. Really not set up for a total rebuild.
They finished great under BB last year. They hit a rough patch to start and now the short-term thinkers are saying blow it up. Unfortunately I don’t think they are set up for a blow it up & rebuild, but nor do I see them as a contender for the next 5 years barring a miracle Montreal Canadians type run.
They need to figure out what they want. A competitive team for a long period, or a cup. Both are different paths from what they have now. To get to what Calgary has, a longish term competitive team and a cup contender I just don’t see it. I’d be head hunting Yzerman or Treliving
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Oct 11, 2023 21:02:12 GMT -7
Before game tonight vs Oil, Quinn Hughes quote.. "It wasn't even that I had to push myself,” Hughes explained Sunday of his evolution last season. “I'm just so sick of losing that if this is what we have to do or this is what I have to do. . . that's easy compared to losing and the toll of the season. Looking at the schedule (last season) and we have, like, 30 games left but we're out of the playoffs, that's really hard. I would say anything is easier than having that toll on you. So if I need to speak up or do whatever, that's easy.”
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Dec 25, 2023 7:12:05 GMT -7
How things have changed. Vancouver is riding high in the standings, and if I was an American player forced to go to Canada it would be with the Canucks. Good climate, good location, with polite Canadians.
Canucks might be able to get some hometown discounts going forward.
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Post by yuke on Dec 26, 2023 11:02:24 GMT -7
This team reminds me of the Flames a few years back. Playing playoff type hockey right now. Come playoffs, they will fold and only stellar goaltending will keep them around (Flames didnt get that). Next year or maybe 2 years from now they will stop listening to Tockett (Happened in Arizon).
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Dec 31, 2023 9:23:05 GMT -7
This team reminds me of the Flames a few years back. Playing playoff type hockey right now. Come playoffs, they will fold and only stellar goaltending will keep them around (Flames didnt get that). Next year or maybe 2 years from now they will stop listening to Tockett (Happened in Arizon). You may be right, the Flames actually didn't do all that bad in the playoffs a few years back. I remember them getting past a very good Dallas team in the second round with good goaltending on both sides. You're right though, some players (the lazy ones), didn't like being pushed and tired of Sutter's antics trying to get the most out of them. I'm thinking Gaudreau particularily, Tkachuck at the end of that year was actually thinking of signing an extension the year prior but Flames management screwed it up (big surprise there). The Flames got caught pinching pennies with the players early and ending up overpaying overrated players too much later to keep them. It comes down to Vacouver management, I like what they've done especially acquiring a hungry Zadorov for a 3rd and 5th. It adds another dimension to an already impressive defense. Management seems sound and has a good read on its players, unlike Calgary did. Ownership forced Tre's hand in Calgary. It was Tre or Sutter, both left.
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Post by Bronco73 on Dec 31, 2023 12:02:09 GMT -7
This team reminds me of the Flames a few years back. Playing playoff type hockey right now. Come playoffs, they will fold and only stellar goaltending will keep them around (Flames didnt get that). Next year or maybe 2 years from now they will stop listening to Tockett (Happened in Arizon). If you watch them play, it is very loose. They are skating very hard and are fun to watch as much as I detest saying that, but that style of play can't last. Tons of cross ice passes, D pinching, lack of blue line coverage in the O-zone, shooting from anywhere and everywhere... and their goaltenders are bailing them out when it's needed. It's winning them games now, but when the physicality and defensive play of playoffs takes effect I think VAN runs into a wall.
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Post by FloridaAltFan on May 3, 2024 19:11:08 GMT -7
Congrats Nucks fans. It seem Elias is proving his worth as a centerman in this series and is evening the trade a bit more.
Miller is the top forward though, surprisingly Pettersson is offered little...
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Post by Bronco73 on May 4, 2024 9:48:21 GMT -7
This team reminds me of the Flames a few years back. Playing playoff type hockey right now. Come playoffs, they will fold and only stellar goaltending will keep them around (Flames didnt get that). Next year or maybe 2 years from now they will stop listening to Tockett (Happened in Arizon). If you watch them play, it is very loose. They are skating very hard and are fun to watch as much as I detest saying that, but that style of play can't last. Tons of cross ice passes, D pinching, lack of blue line coverage in the O-zone, shooting from anywhere and everywhere... and their goaltenders are bailing them out when it's needed. It's winning them games now, but when the physicality and defensive play of playoffs takes effect I think VAN runs into a wall. No wall yet....
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Post by sharptooth on May 4, 2024 10:52:20 GMT -7
If you watch them play, it is very loose. They are skating very hard and are fun to watch as much as I detest saying that, but that style of play can't last. Tons of cross ice passes, D pinching, lack of blue line coverage in the O-zone, shooting from anywhere and everywhere... and their goaltenders are bailing them out when it's needed. It's winning them games now, but when the physicality and defensive play of playoffs takes effect I think VAN runs into a wall. No wall yet.... It’s coming on Tuesday
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Post by mrtea on May 4, 2024 11:43:09 GMT -7
The future of the Canucks will not look to good once they play the Oilers.
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Post by happyhappy on May 7, 2024 16:01:47 GMT -7
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Post by drtaf on May 8, 2024 7:51:20 GMT -7
Would love to see a complete collapse of the nucks franchise after the series, just like the flames, but I think they are built very solidly and I think this series is going to be the start of a rivalry that will far eclipse anything we had with the flames since the glory days of the 80's
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