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Post by Bronco73 on Aug 19, 2021 14:00:44 GMT -7
the Gila River Arena has decided to not continue with the mutual lease agreement with the Arizona Coyotes after the 2021/22 season and the team must now find a new venue before July 1 2022. theathletic.com/news/coyotes-will-have-to-relocate-from-gila-river-arena-after-2021-22-season/YLK33KcVoQbMPerfect opportunity to move the team IMO. I think it bodes well for the NHL. They want more revenue and are looking at asinine ideas like advertising on jerseys, why not relocate the team to somewhere that will make them money instead of cost them money? Toronto, approaching 6 million people in the GTA alone should be sporting a second team. LA has two teams and New York has 3. I'm confident Toronto could not only support a second team but it would thrive there. There, or another city where the team could flourish IMO is the way to go. With Dallas having a team, Houston which is a huge city or even San Antonio could work? Or back to Canada with Quebec City? Maybe Hamilton, Kitchener, London... or how about Halifax? I really think the time to move the Coyotes is now, right after the 22 season. |
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 19, 2021 14:27:36 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see what cities make a play to get them. I really think Quebec City has a good chance at this, and would be a great addition to the league.
You're totally right about the Toronto situation Bronc, but I feel like there was a brief conversation about that a few years ago and the Leafs didn't want to give up any cookies. I can't imagine that has changed, but the league may have more buy in from the other owners this time. They need this to work, as they all need the revenue of a successful team.
I think that Gary would rather try an untapped American market. With the current state of economics, and the tight timeline, I'm not sure he'll have a lot of choices. It'll be a tough sell to taxpayers in most locations.
Quebec would be plug'n'play.
Certainly a significant turn of events though, whichever way it ends up going.
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Post by Bronco73 on Aug 19, 2021 14:38:15 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see what cities make a play to get them. I really think Quebec City has a good chance at this, and would be a great addition to the league. You're totally right about the Toronto situation Bronc, but I feel like there was a brief conversation about that a few years ago and the Leafs didn't want to give up any cookies. I can't imagine that has changed, but the league may have more buy in from the other owners this time. They need this to work, as they all need the revenue of a successful team. I think that Gary would rather try an untapped American market. With the current state of economics, and the tight timeline, I'm not sure he'll have a lot of choices. It'll be a tough sell to taxpayers in most locations. Quebec would be plug'n'play. Certainly a significant turn of events though, whichever way it ends up going. honestly I think another team in Texas might be a good idea. The sport is growing in leaps and bounds in the states especially the southern ones. No, the viewership isn't and the fanbases are not, but the numbers of people actually playing the sport are. A second team in texas, a bona fide rival for Dallas could be huge for the sports growth in the southern states. Austin, Houston, or San Antonio could be venues. It would without question be a huge struggle at first, but the end game and payoff could be huge for the sports growth.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 19, 2021 14:52:58 GMT -7
It will be interesting to see what cities make a play to get them. I really think Quebec City has a good chance at this, and would be a great addition to the league. You're totally right about the Toronto situation Bronc, but I feel like there was a brief conversation about that a few years ago and the Leafs didn't want to give up any cookies. I can't imagine that has changed, but the league may have more buy in from the other owners this time. They need this to work, as they all need the revenue of a successful team. I think that Gary would rather try an untapped American market. With the current state of economics, and the tight timeline, I'm not sure he'll have a lot of choices. It'll be a tough sell to taxpayers in most locations. Quebec would be plug'n'play. Certainly a significant turn of events though, whichever way it ends up going. honestly I think another team in Texas might be a good idea. The sport is growing in leaps and bounds in the states especially the southern ones. No, the viewership isn't and the fanbases are not, but the numbers of people actually playing the sport are. A second team in texas, a bona fide rival for Dallas could be huge for the sports growth in the southern states. Austin, Houston, or San Antonio could be venues. It would without question be a huge struggle at first, but the end game and payoff could be huge for the sports growth. And, that's the billion dollar question....Do they take the risk, or do they take the easy money? If Houston comes for the Yotes, I think they have to try. It's such a big market, but they're competing against the NFL and NBA. Quebec is such low hanging fruit that it must be tempting to take the easy money. We'll see who wins out.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Aug 19, 2021 16:52:07 GMT -7
If Quebec City got a team, would that mean Detroit moves back to the Western Conference to the Central Division?
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Post by SuperDave17 on Aug 19, 2021 18:49:39 GMT -7
My bet says Bettman will convince himself he can still squeeze water from a rock.
Just think of the untold riches that await by moving the team to New Orleans, or Little Rock, or Mexico City, or Havana, or Sao Paulo or ...
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Aug 19, 2021 18:50:25 GMT -7
My bet says Bettman will convince himself he can still squeeze water from a rock. Just think of the untold riches that await by moving the team to New Orleans, or Little Rock, or Mexico City, or Havana, or Sao Paulo or ... Beijing Coyotes lol. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk |
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 19, 2021 19:29:58 GMT -7
My bet says Bettman will convince himself he can still squeeze water from a rock. Just think of the untold riches that await by moving the team to New Orleans, or Little Rock, or Mexico City, or Havana, or Sao Paulo or ... MEXICO CITY NEEDS THE NHL!! 9 million people, and an altitude 2000 ft higher than Denver...Mangiapane would get wild!
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Aug 19, 2021 19:34:09 GMT -7
My bet says Bettman will convince himself he can still squeeze water from a rock. Just think of the untold riches that await by moving the team to New Orleans, or Little Rock, or Mexico City, or Havana, or Sao Paulo or ... MEXICO CITY NEEDS THE NHL!! 9 million people, and an altitude 2000 ft higher than Denver...Monahan would get wild! I'm in Mexico 5-6 times a year, 3 times during hockey season. I'd love to go to some games when I'm down there. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk |
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Post by yuke on Aug 19, 2021 22:19:16 GMT -7
They should move them to Calgary. So that city can have a real NHL team.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 19, 2021 22:43:03 GMT -7
They should move them to Calgary. So that city can have a real NHL team. BOOM!
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Post by drtaf on Aug 20, 2021 7:42:28 GMT -7
They should move them to Calgary. So that city can have a real NHL team. They already have a team of dogs ;-), besides, they dont have an NHL Arena  . Logic says that since the only cities with an NHL arena ready for next season would be Hamilton or Quebec, they should move to one of them, but in the US-centric world of Gary Bettman, I'm sure he'd rather the franchise just die and wait for the next Billionaire to come up with a $650M membership fee. My guess is it will be Houston, Portland or KC (I think KC may even have an arena but im going from memory and too lazy to look it up). In a perfect Bettman world a billionaire oil baron from Houston will buy them up and move them so Texas has a logical rivalry. Although the new Yotes owner just bought them so not sure how willing he will be to sell them? If he can move them and put a deal in place with Houston then this would become one of the smartest investments a NHL owner has made as he would presumably avoid the $650M membership fee (didnt he only pay ~$80M for the Yotes)?
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Post by discostew on Aug 20, 2021 7:46:15 GMT -7
Heyoo
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Post by Bronco73 on Aug 20, 2021 10:37:56 GMT -7
Houston apparently does have a very nice arena, and they had a professional team in the WHA. From what I'm reading, they have everything required to bring an NHL team in right now. Heck they'd even stay in the same division if that happened
Apparently the Yotes are looking at moving to Tempe but there are a lot of hoops to jump through to make that happen. I say they should bite the bullet now and make the move. Try and find a buyer in Houston before anything, then look at a move to other venues if that falls through
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Post by drtaf on Aug 20, 2021 11:39:05 GMT -7
I’ve heard there are tons of problems with moving to Tempe and also downtown Phoenix and neither would be viable for at least another 3 yrs🤷♂️. I didn’t know Houston had an arena ready to go. That makes them the odds on fav IMO. It’s just a question of whether the current owner wants to do that or is forced to cash out and sell to someone in Houston. The new ads on jersey idea together with bringing in betting will entice some billionaires I’m sure
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Post by FloridaAltFan on Aug 21, 2021 0:32:42 GMT -7
Return of the Nordiques?
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 21, 2021 6:46:25 GMT -7
Houston apparently does have a very nice arena, and they had a professional team in the WHA. From what I'm reading, they have everything required to bring an NHL team in right now. Heck they'd even stay in the same division if that happened Apparently the Yotes are looking at moving to Tempe but there are a lot of hoops to jump through to make that happen. I say they should bite the bullet now and make the move. Try and find a buyer in Houston before anything, then look at a move to other venues if that falls through What the world really needs to know is; What does Auston Matthews think? I mean, the Yotes just paved the way to bring him home to AZ. If he says he wants to come home to play in AZ, the league will find a way to make it happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 18:14:27 GMT -7
Bettman sure solved this on going problem only to have it return again and again. Then you take NHL officiating into account.... Serious issues that the NHL leadership just fail outright to address.
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. Logic says that since the only cities with an NHL arena ready for next season would be Hamilton or Quebec, they should move to one of them, but in the US-centric world of Gary Bettman, I'm sure he'd rather the franchise just die and wait for the next Billionaire to come up with a $650M membership fee. My guess is it will be Houston, Portland or KC (I think KC may even have an arena but im going from memory and too lazy to look it up). In a perfect Bettman world a billionaire oil baron from Houston will buy them up and move them so Texas has a logical rivalry. Although the new Yotes owner just bought them so not sure how willing he will be to sell them? If he can move them and put a deal in place with Houston then this would become one of the smartest investments a NHL owner has made as he would presumably avoid the $650M membership fee (didnt he only pay ~$80M for the Yotes)?
