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Post by oilyfan on May 25, 2021 14:00:12 GMT -7
Well, it's official - we are now in off season mode. What I really like though is we aren't worried (well I'm not) about what we need to do to become a playoff team. We are a playoff team and IMO if we stood pat we'd be 2nd place in our division next year with some luck (as in no major injuries) and depending on what we will do we could be challenging Vegas for 1st place.
We will have cap space, and hopefully Holland can free up more cap space with somehow getting rid of Neal and Koskinen (buy out for Kos for sure if we can't trade him). My hope over the summer:
1. We re-sign the following players long term:
Darnell Nurse (Drai money)
2. We offer contracts to the following RFA's Jujhar Khaira
Devin Shore
Kailer Yamamoto
3. Offer contracts to the following UFA's (and suggested $ / term)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - 2 years @ 4.5M a year (that's the offer, if he will sign for around 5M / year for two years I'd do that)
Alex Chiasson - 1 years 1M
Gaetan Haas - 1 year 900K Adam Larsson - 4 years - 3.75M per
Slater Koekkoek - 1 year 900K (slight raise)
Mike Smith - 1 years 2.5M
I don't think we can afford Tyson Barrie. Someone will pay him top dollar and I'd rather sign Nurse long term so that's why he's not on my list. If he would sign here on a team friendly deal I'd welcome him but that was not his MO for signing here. He wants to cash in and with a new team joining the league someone somewhere will have a hole to fill and will offer Barrie big money that we can't
4. Go after the following UFA's in the market:
Zack Hyman
Philip Danault
Luke Glendening
Brandon Saad
Blake Coleman
Mike Hoffman
Jamie Oleksiak
Brandon Montour
Peter Mrazek
We can't get all of them obviously, but out of this group we need two of the wingers that can play top 6, a 3rd line center, a dman, and a goalie. Holland should be very very busy this summer and I have a feeling our team will look a lot different next season.... for the better
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Post by SuperDave17 on May 25, 2021 14:11:19 GMT -7
Pass on Chiasson.
Ullmark is the UFA I really want.
And honestly, I wouldn't be choked up by letting RNH walk. Maybe we can go big game hunting with that cap space he's had.
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Post by drtaf on May 25, 2021 15:24:20 GMT -7
Well, it's official - we are now in off season mode. What I really like though is we aren't worried (well I'm not) about what we need to do to become a playoff team. We are a playoff team and IMO if we stood pat we'd be 2nd place in our division next year with some luck (as in no major injuries) and depending on what we will do we could be challenging Vegas for 1st place. We will have cap space, and hopefully Holland can free up more cap space with somehow getting rid of Neal and Koskinen (buy out for Kos for sure if we can't trade him). My hope over the summer: 1. We re-sign the following players long term: Darnell Nurse (Drai money)
2. We offer contracts to the following RFA's Jujhar Khaira
Devin Shore
Kailer Yamamoto
3. Offer contracts to the following UFA's (and suggested $ / term)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - 2 years @ 4.5M a year (that's the offer, if he will sign for around 5M / year for two years I'd do that)
Alex Chiasson - 1 years 1M
Gaetan Haas - 1 year 900K Adam Larsson - 4 years - 3.75M per
Slater Koekkoek - 1 year 900K (slight raise)
Mike Smith - 1 years 2.5M
I don't think we can afford Tyson Barrie. Someone will pay him top dollar and I'd rather sign Nurse long term so that's why he's not on my list. If he would sign here on a team friendly deal I'd welcome him but that was not his MO for signing here. He wants to cash in and with a new team joining the league someone somewhere will have a hole to fill and will offer Barrie big money that we can't
4. Go after the following UFA's in the market:
Zack Hyman
Philip Danault
Luke Glendening
Brandon Saad
Blake Coleman
Mike Hoffman
Jamie Oleksiak
Brandon Montour
Peter Mrazek
We can't get all of them obviously, but out of this group we need two of the wingers that can play top 6, a 3rd line center, a dman, and a goalie. Holland should be very very busy this summer and I have a feeling our team will look a lot different next season.... for the bettergreat beak down oily, i agree with most of your assessments although Chase and Haas are expendable imo. I'd like to still see archie here despite his bonehead penalty and ennis would be good depth but only at league min. I'd like to see Smith back at same contract $1.5 and maybe add some bonuses to sweeten pot? I doubt he'll have too many suitors despite playing great this year and every dollar counts
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 15:25:47 GMT -7
Pass on Chiasson. Ullmark is the UFA I really want. And honestly, I wouldn't be choked up by letting RNH walk. Maybe we can go big game hunting with that cap space he's had.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 15:28:55 GMT -7
Well, it's official - we are now in off season mode. What I really like though is we aren't worried (well I'm not) about what we need to do to become a playoff team. We are a playoff team and IMO if we stood pat we'd be 2nd place in our division next year with some luck (as in no major injuries) and depending on what we will do we could be challenging Vegas for 1st place. We will have cap space, and hopefully Holland can free up more cap space with somehow getting rid of Neal and Koskinen (buy out for Kos for sure if we can't trade him). My hope over the summer: 1. We re-sign the following players long term: Darnell Nurse (Drai money)
2. We offer contracts to the following RFA's Jujhar Khaira
Devin Shore
Kailer Yamamoto
3. Offer contracts to the following UFA's (and suggested $ / term)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - 2 years @ 4.5M a year (that's the offer, if he will sign for around 5M / year for two years I'd do that)
Alex Chiasson - 1 years 1M
Gaetan Haas - 1 year 900K Adam Larsson - 4 years - 3.75M per
Slater Koekkoek - 1 year 900K (slight raise)
Mike Smith - 1 years 2.5M
I don't think we can afford Tyson Barrie. Someone will pay him top dollar and I'd rather sign Nurse long term so that's why he's not on my list. If he would sign here on a team friendly deal I'd welcome him but that was not his MO for signing here. He wants to cash in and with a new team joining the league someone somewhere will have a hole to fill and will offer Barrie big money that we can't
4. Go after the following UFA's in the market:
Zack Hyman
Philip Danault
Luke Glendening
Brandon Saad
Blake Coleman
Mike Hoffman
Jamie Oleksiak
Brandon Montour
Peter Mrazek
We can't get all of them obviously, but out of this group we need two of the wingers that can play top 6, a 3rd line center, a dman, and a goalie. Holland should be very very busy this summer and I have a feeling our team will look a lot different next season.... for the better
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Post by pillotte on May 25, 2021 15:45:34 GMT -7
Well, it's official - we are now in off season mode. What I really like though is we aren't worried (well I'm not) about what we need to do to become a playoff team. We are a playoff team and IMO if we stood pat we'd be 2nd place in our division next year with some luck (as in no major injuries) and depending on what we will do we could be challenging Vegas for 1st place. We will have cap space, and hopefully Holland can free up more cap space with somehow getting rid of Neal and Koskinen (buy out for Kos for sure if we can't trade him). My hope over the summer: 1. We re-sign the following players long term: Darnell Nurse (Drai money)
2. We offer contracts to the following RFA's Jujhar Khaira
Devin Shore
Kailer Yamamoto
3. Offer contracts to the following UFA's (and suggested $ / term)
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - 2 years @ 4.5M a year (that's the offer, if he will sign for around 5M / year for two years I'd do that)
Alex Chiasson - 1 years 1M
Gaetan Haas - 1 year 900K Adam Larsson - 4 years - 3.75M per
Slater Koekkoek - 1 year 900K (slight raise)
Mike Smith - 1 years 2.5M
I don't think we can afford Tyson Barrie. Someone will pay him top dollar and I'd rather sign Nurse long term so that's why he's not on my list. If he would sign here on a team friendly deal I'd welcome him but that was not his MO for signing here. He wants to cash in and with a new team joining the league someone somewhere will have a hole to fill and will offer Barrie big money that we can't
4. Go after the following UFA's in the market:
Zack Hyman
Philip Danault
Luke Glendening
Brandon Saad
Blake Coleman
Mike Hoffman
Jamie Oleksiak
Brandon Montour
Peter Mrazek
We can't get all of them obviously, but out of this group we need two of the wingers that can play top 6, a 3rd line center, a dman, and a goalie. Holland should be very very busy this summer and I have a feeling our team will look a lot different next season.... for the betterNice list, I heard we only have 23 million in cap? I thought with all buyouts done and expiring contracts it was just under 30M. However whatever it is, it is. As far as Barrie is concerned, I'd love to have him back BUT at a reasonable amount. I believe that will depend on Klefbom and his state of not only returning (if) but how effective will he be after missing a season, albeit shortened somewhat. As far as Nuge goes an offer of 5 - 6 M would be OK. We have a bonnafide star rising in McLeod who I believe could drive his own line easily. Along with Bouchard and possibly Broberg our D looks fine. We have one more year as far as Nurse goes so that may help somewhat in next year cap. He will be expensive when his turn comes up though. Hopefully the emotion of playing with the Oilers and the bright future will enter into some of those decisions too stay as long as the contract is deemed fair to both sides.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 15:54:48 GMT -7
Nice list, I heard we only have 23 million in cap? I thought with all buyouts done and expiring contracts it was just under 30M. However whatever it is, it is. As far as Barrie is concerned, I'd love to have him back BUT at a reasonable amount. I believe that will depend on Klefbom and his state of not only returning (if) but how effective will he be after missing a season, albeit shortened somewhat. As far as Nuge goes an offer of 5 - 6 M would be OK. We have a bonnafide star rising in McLeod who I believe could drive his own line easily. Along with Bouchard and possibly Broberg our D looks fine. We have one more year as far as Nurse goes so that may help somewhat in next year cap. He will be expensive when his turn comes up though. Hopefully the emotion of playing with the Oilers and the bright future will enter into some of those decisions too stay as long as the contract is deemed fair to both sides.
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Post by Bronco73 on May 25, 2021 16:43:13 GMT -7
PLAYERS I'D MOVE OUT, BUY OUT, CAP REGAIN:
LET WALK: Ryan Nugent Hopkins 6.0M Alex Chiason 2.5M Jujar Khaira 1.2M Tyson Barrie 3.75M __________________ 13.45 M
BUYOUTS AND BUYOUT COMPLETIONS: buy out James Neal @ 1.9 million for 2 season saving 3.8M cap space Benoit Pouliot @ 1.3M completes, cap regained _________________________________________________ 5.1 M
SALARY REDUCTION CAP ACQUISITION: Kris Russel down to 1.25 from 4, cap gain of 2.75 __________________________________________ 2.75 M
Trade ANY WAY POSSIBLE Miko Koskinen 4.5M _______________________ 4.5 M
TOTAL CAP GAIN 25.8M
PLAYERS TO ACQUIRE acquire UFA Goaltender Linus Ullmark with Miko's cap hit 4.5M Promote Philip Broberg and Evan Bouchard to the main roster Sign LW Zack Hyman (likely in the 5M neighborhood) 5 M HOPEFULLY Klefbom returns @4.2M
That leaves approximately 12 million to sign 3 more forwards. That's a ton of money to spend on some big names. I can't say who because we don't know who will be available just yet, but there are some extremely intriguing names coming UFA this summer if they do not get signed.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 17:19:40 GMT -7
PLAYERS I'D MOVE OUT, BUY OUT, CAP REGAIN: LET WALK: Ryan Nugent Hopkins 6.0M Alex Chiason 2.5M Jujar Khaira 1.2M Tyson Barrie 3.75M __________________ 13.45 MBUYOUTS AND BUYOUT COMPLETIONS: buy out James Neal @ 1.9 million for 2 season saving 3.8M cap space Benoit Pouliot @ 1.3M completes, cap regained _________________________________________________ 5.1 MSALARY REDUCTION CAP ACQUISITION: Kris Russel down to 1.25 from 4, cap gain of 2.75 __________________________________________ 2.75 MTrade ANY WAY POSSIBLE Miko Koskinen 4.5M _______________________ 4.5 M TOTAL CAP GAIN 25.8M
PLAYERS TO ACQUIRE acquire UFA Goaltender Linus Ullmark with Miko's cap hit 4.5MPromote Philip Broberg and Evan Bouchard to the main roster Sign LW Zack Hyman (likely in the 5M neighborhood) 5 M HOPEFULLY Klefbom returns @4.2M
That leaves approximately 12 million to sign 3 more forwards. That's a ton of money to spend on some big names. I can't say who because we don't know who will be available just yet, but there are some extremely intriguing names coming UFA this summer if they do not get signed.
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Post by Bronco73 on May 25, 2021 17:21:19 GMT -7
PLAYERS I'D MOVE OUT, BUY OUT, CAP REGAIN: LET WALK: Ryan Nugent Hopkins 6.0M Alex Chiason 2.5M Jujar Khaira 1.2M Tyson Barrie 3.75M __________________ 13.45 MBUYOUTS AND BUYOUT COMPLETIONS: buy out James Neal @ 1.9 million for 2 season saving 3.8M cap space Benoit Pouliot @ 1.3M completes, cap regained _________________________________________________ 5.1 MSALARY REDUCTION CAP ACQUISITION: Kris Russel down to 1.25 from 4, cap gain of 2.75 __________________________________________ 2.75 MTrade ANY WAY POSSIBLE Miko Koskinen 4.5M _______________________ 4.5 M TOTAL CAP GAIN 25.8M
PLAYERS TO ACQUIRE acquire UFA Goaltender Linus Ullmark with Miko's cap hit 4.5MPromote Philip Broberg and Evan Bouchard to the main roster Sign LW Zack Hyman (likely in the 5M neighborhood) 5 M HOPEFULLY Klefbom returns @4.2M
That leaves approximately 12 million to sign 3 more forwards. That's a ton of money to spend on some big names. I can't say who because we don't know who will be available just yet, but there are some extremely intriguing names coming UFA this summer if they do not get signed.
Geez Bronco, Is it a stretch to say you like Ullmark? Lol. Be awesome if we can. Hey now that's just not fair.... we have Miko. I'd like a sack of potatoes laid strategically down in front of the net over him The thing about Ullmark IMO is that he is a UFA goaltender that is very good and coming in off of a very cheap contract. He could be perfect to acquire without having to trade or overpay to get him, that's why I like him so much.
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Post by SuperDave17 on May 25, 2021 17:23:20 GMT -7
You can trust Bronco and myself on this one, he's arguably the only reason Buff managed to win any games this season.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 17:29:17 GMT -7
Geez Bronco, Is it a stretch to say you like Ullmark? Lol. Be awesome if we can. Hey now that's just not fair.... we have Miko. I'd like a sack of potatoes laid strategically down in front of the net over him The thing about Ullmark IMO is that he is a UFA goaltender that is very good and coming in off of a very cheap contract. He could be perfect to acquire without having to trade or overpay to get him, that's why I like him so much.
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Post by fogolin2 on May 25, 2021 17:32:34 GMT -7
Hey now that's just not fair.... we have Miko. I'd like a sack of potatoes laid strategically down in front of the net over him The thing about Ullmark IMO is that he is a UFA goaltender that is very good and coming in off of a very cheap contract. He could be perfect to acquire without having to trade or overpay to get him, that's why I like him so much. Oh I agree with all your reasons and it would be a solid ,solid choice , I have just never seen anyone so consistently promote for one player so hard. Hope Holland does you a solid and gets him! Wow....If Posthugger is commenting on YOUR singular focus on a goalie, you know it's gone off the deep end!!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 17:34:46 GMT -7
You can trust Bronco and myself on this one, he's arguably the only reason Buff managed to win any games this season.
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Post by oilyfan on May 25, 2021 18:35:06 GMT -7
Geez Bronco, Is it a stretch to say you like Ullmark? Lol. Be awesome if we can. Hey now that's just not fair.... we have Miko. I'd like a sack of potatoes laid strategically down in front of the net over him The thing about Ullmark IMO is that he is a UFA goaltender that is very good and coming in off of a very cheap contract. He could be perfect to acquire without having to trade or overpay to get him, that's why I like him so much. I like Ullmark, even had him on my team for a bit (until he got hurt). For most of the season Buffalo could only win with him in net, and he was injured throughout that long losing streak. I didn't see that he was a UFA - yes, I would definitely buy out Kos if I could sign Ullmark. He's a hidden gem IMO
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on May 25, 2021 19:34:57 GMT -7
PLAYERS I'D MOVE OUT, BUY OUT, CAP REGAIN: LET WALK: Ryan Nugent Hopkins 6.0M Alex Chiason 2.5M Jujar Khaira 1.2M Tyson Barrie 3.75M __________________ 13.45 MBUYOUTS AND BUYOUT COMPLETIONS: buy out James Neal @ 1.9 million for 2 season saving 3.8M cap space Benoit Pouliot @ 1.3M completes, cap regained _________________________________________________ 5.1 MSALARY REDUCTION CAP ACQUISITION: Kris Russel down to 1.25 from 4, cap gain of 2.75 __________________________________________ 2.75 MTrade ANY WAY POSSIBLE Miko Koskinen 4.5M _______________________ 4.5 M TOTAL CAP GAIN 25.8M
PLAYERS TO ACQUIRE acquire UFA Goaltender Linus Ullmark with Miko's cap hit 4.5MPromote Philip Broberg and Evan Bouchard to the main roster Sign LW Zack Hyman (likely in the 5M neighborhood) 5 M HOPEFULLY Klefbom returns @4.2M
That leaves approximately 12 million to sign 3 more forwards. That's a ton of money to spend on some big names. I can't say who because we don't know who will be available just yet, but there are some extremely intriguing names coming UFA this summer if they do not get signed.
Could buyout both Koski and Neal. Koski is 1.5M for 2 years.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on May 25, 2021 23:34:11 GMT -7
Potential centre targets:
- Alexander Wennberg (current cap hit 2.25M) - Luke Glendening (current cap hit 1.8M) - Erik Haula (current cap hit 1.75M) - Mikhail Grigorenko (current cap hit 1.2M) - Philip Danault (current cap hit 3.083M) - Marcus Johansson (current cap hit 4.5M)
Potential LW targets:
- Anthony Duclair (current cap hit 1.7M) - Alex Galchenyuk (current cap hit 1.05M) - Mike Hoffman (current cap hit 4M) - Tomas Tartar (current cap hit 4.8M) - Gabriel Landeskog (current cap hit 5.57M) - André Burakovsky (current cap hit 4.9M)
Potential RW targets:
- Zach Hyman (current cap hit 2.25M) - Wayne Simmonds (current cap hit 1.5M) - Nikita Gusev (current cap hit 1M)
Potential goalie targets:
- Petr Mrázek (current cap hit 3.125M) - Linus Ullmark (current cap hit 2.6M) - Braden Holtby (current cap hit 4.3M) - Tuukka Rask (current cap hit 7M) - Philip Grubauer (current cap hit 3.33M) - Antti Raanta (current cap hit 4.25M)
Potential defense targets:
- Jamie Oleksiak (current cap hit 2.1375M) - Erik Gudbranson (current cap hit 4M)
Potential trades:
- Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones to BOS for Jake DeBrusk and Nick Ritchie. - maybe not straight up, but some variation of this.
- Ethan Bear OR Caleb Jones+ to CHI for Nikita Zadorov
I don’t want to trade Bear, but if Barrie gets re-signed then Bear might be the odd man out.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 10:14:56 GMT -7
Potential centre targets: - Alexander Wennberg (current cap hit 2.25M) - Luke Glendening (current cap hit 1.8M) - Erik Haula (current cap hit 1.75M) - Mikhail Grigorenko (current cap hit 1.2M) - Philip Danault (current cap hit 3.083M) - Marcus Johansson (current cap hit 4.5M) Potential LW targets: - Anthony Duclair (current cap hit 1.7M) - Alex Galchenyuk (current cap hit 1.05M) - Mike Hoffman (current cap hit 4M) - Tomas Tartar (current cap hit 4.8M) - Gabriel Landeskog (current cap hit 5.57M) - André Burakovsky (current cap hit 4.9M) Potential RW targets: - Zach Hyman (current cap hit 2.25M) - Wayne Simmonds (current cap hit 1.5M) - Nikita Gusev (current cap hit 1M) Potential goalie targets: - Petr Mrázek (current cap hit 3.125M) - Linus Ullmark (current cap hit 2.6M) - Braden Holtby (current cap hit 4.3M) - Tuukka Rask (current cap hit 7M) - Philip Grubauer (current cap hit 3.33M) - Antti Raanta (current cap hit 4.25M) Potential defense targets: - Jamie Oleksiak (current cap hit 2.1375M) - Erik Gudbranson (current cap hit 4M) Potential trades: - Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones to BOS for Jake DeBrusk and Nick Ritchie. - maybe not straight up, but some variation of this. - Ethan Bear OR Caleb Jones+ to CHI for Nikita Zadorov I don’t want to trade Bear, but if Barrie gets re-signed then Bear might be the odd man out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on May 26, 2021 10:18:49 GMT -7
Potential centre targets: - Alexander Wennberg (current cap hit 2.25M) - Luke Glendening (current cap hit 1.8M) - Erik Haula (current cap hit 1.75M) - Mikhail Grigorenko (current cap hit 1.2M) - Philip Danault (current cap hit 3.083M) - Marcus Johansson (current cap hit 4.5M) Potential LW targets: - Anthony Duclair (current cap hit 1.7M) - Alex Galchenyuk (current cap hit 1.05M) - Mike Hoffman (current cap hit 4M) - Tomas Tartar (current cap hit 4.8M) - Gabriel Landeskog (current cap hit 5.57M) - André Burakovsky (current cap hit 4.9M) Potential RW targets: - Zach Hyman (current cap hit 2.25M) - Wayne Simmonds (current cap hit 1.5M) - Nikita Gusev (current cap hit 1M) Potential goalie targets: - Petr Mrázek (current cap hit 3.125M) - Linus Ullmark (current cap hit 2.6M) - Braden Holtby (current cap hit 4.3M) - Tuukka Rask (current cap hit 7M) - Philip Grubauer (current cap hit 3.33M) - Antti Raanta (current cap hit 4.25M) Potential defense targets: - Jamie Oleksiak (current cap hit 2.1375M) - Erik Gudbranson (current cap hit 4M) Potential trades: - Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones to BOS for Jake DeBrusk and Nick Ritchie. - maybe not straight up, but some variation of this. - Ethan Bear OR Caleb Jones+ to CHI for Nikita Zadorov I don’t want to trade Bear, but if Barrie gets re-signed then Bear might be the odd man out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wow Nice job, you really did your homework with an extensive list to ponder. Hey where is Nikita Zadorov on D ? although I do like your other selections! Great work on this list. Zadorov is usually second pairing LD. So he would take Kulikov’s spot on our D. A Zadorov-Larsson pairing would be VERY tough to play against. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 10:36:10 GMT -7
Wow Nice job, you really did your homework with an extensive list to ponder. Hey where is Nikita Zadorov on D ? although I do like your other selections! Great work on this list. Zadorov is usually second pairing LD. So he would take Kulikov’s spot on our D. A Zadorov-Larsson pairing would be VERY tough to play against. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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