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Post by drtaf on Aug 13, 2021 12:52:15 GMT -7
Yep, and ultimately the decisions will be based on how it effects the bottom line of the nhl teams. The Jets asked their ST holders and they said this is what they wanted, I’m guessing most teams will do the same thing or at least should do if they’re smart
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Aug 13, 2021 12:52:19 GMT -7
CDC has said, as of yesterday, that over 90% of the new Delta variant cases are unvaccinated people.. EDIT: My bad, it's 90-99% of new COVID deaths are unvaccinated people, and over 90% of new cases are delta variant. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk "High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said in a statement Friday. where do you get the high viral load...the jab. It's always been said, since the very beginning, that vaccinated people can catch and transmit the virus, they're just protected from serious illness. For example: Hospitalizations and death. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 12:55:29 GMT -7
It's all about freedom. People can choose to get, or not get, the vaccine. Private businesses can choose to limit, or not limit, access to their businesses. It's called the 'right to refuse service' and it's wide ranging and at the businesses discretion. Pretty simple, really. It has become political since people need things to yell about, but it really comes down to freedom. There is already some wild Monahan in this thread. Should be fun. Funny when 99.6 % beat it . It will be a great case study to see how many businesses or sports teams like the Jets have push back by alienating their customer base...mask requirements are one thing but to try to regulate a vaccine on their customer base could infact open them up to liabilities as they would not be exempt like the pharma companies have been for the covid shots. This should be a red flag right there. They're not attempting to regulate their customer base. They are simply saying, if you're not vaccinated take your money elsewhere. They pay for space, and everyone that works in it, and all the product sold in it, so it's their right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 12:58:29 GMT -7
"High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said in a statement Friday. where do you get the high viral load...the jab. The Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine as well as the Moderna vaccine rely on messenger RNA, or mRNA. Each vaccine works by using mRNA to carry a genetic code that works as an instruction card to tell the body to make the “spike protein” that is in the coronavirus. Once the protein is made in the body, the cells get rid of the instructions and the immune system builds an immune response to it. The vaccines do not use the live virus. Exactly, normally vaccines use the dead virus to have t cells respond. The Covid vaccine is not including the entire envelope of the covid virus and the spike protiens are travelling the body in every cell. dreddymd.com/2021/08/13/dr-richard-fleming-warns-the-vaccine-is-the-bioweapon-in-bombshell-interview-with-mike-adams/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:05:01 GMT -7
"High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus," Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the CDC's director, said in a statement Friday. where do you get the high viral load...the jab. It's always been said, since the very beginning, that vaccinated people can catch and transmit the virus, they're just protected from serious illness. For example: Hospitalizations and death. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk The point of vaccination has been protect and not catching the virus throughout history of vaccination. Don't worry though I think they said another12 variants exist after delta because they did not include the whole virus envelope. Vaccinated people appear not to be immune from clotting, Myocardia or neurological issues (bell Palsy) dreddymd.com/2021/08/13/dr-richard-fleming-warns-the-vaccine-is-the-bioweapon-in-bombshell-interview-with-mike-adams/
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Post by drtaf on Aug 13, 2021 13:09:05 GMT -7
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Post by drtaf on Aug 13, 2021 13:09:42 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:10:09 GMT -7
Funny when 99.6 % beat it . It will be a great case study to see how many businesses or sports teams like the Jets have push back by alienating their customer base...mask requirements are one thing but to try to regulate a vaccine on their customer base could infact open them up to liabilities as they would not be exempt like the pharma companies have been for the covid shots. This should be a red flag right there. They're not attempting to regulate their customer base. They are simply saying, if you're not vaccinated take your money elsewhere. They pay for space, and everyone that works in it, and all the product sold in it, so it's their right. That is true and it will be interesting to watch it unfold is all I'm stating. you can ask for all the fans to be vaccinated however I am positive if the players union rules Players not to have the jab then you will see legal arguments concerning these requirements as it will be a two tier system.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:17:49 GMT -7
He is One of dozens now coming out. Go to the pharmacy and ask to see the vaccine and open the sheet of ingredients...yes the blank sheet...then tell me how you make a informed consent?
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 13:23:00 GMT -7
They're not attempting to regulate their customer base. They are simply saying, if you're not vaccinated take your money elsewhere. They pay for space, and everyone that works in it, and all the product sold in it, so it's their right. That is true and it will be interesting to watch it unfold is all I'm stating. you can ask for all the fans to be vaccinated however I am positive if the players union rules Players not to have the jab then you will see legal arguments concerning these requirements as it will be a two tier system. It is a two-tier system. The business owners make their choices, and everyone else makes their choice as to where they work or do business.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 13:25:37 GMT -7
He is One of dozens now coming out. There are dozens of ex-doctors getting disbarred because of this? That's a weird thing to cite to support your point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:26:59 GMT -7
That is true and it will be interesting to watch it unfold is all I'm stating. you can ask for all the fans to be vaccinated however I am positive if the players union rules Players not to have the jab then you will see legal arguments concerning these requirements as it will be a two tier system. It is a two-tier system. The business owners make their choices, and everyone else makes their choice as to where they work or do business. I agree, I am just saying it will be interesting to see the fall out, be it fans ,legal challenges and how the players unions respond.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 13:28:20 GMT -7
He is One of dozens now coming out. Go to the pharmacy and ask to see the vaccine and open the sheet of ingredients...yes the blank sheet...then tell me how you make a informed consent? I got Zeneca Ingredients Medicinal ingredient Adenovirus vector vaccine Non-medicinal ingredients disodium edetate dihydrate (EDTA) ethanol L-histidine L-histidine hydrochloride monohydrate magnesium chloride hexahydrate polysorbate 80 sodium chloride sucrose water for injection And Pfizer Medicinal ingredient mRNA Non-medicinal ingredients ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate) ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine cholesterol dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate monobasic potassium phosphate potassium chloride sodium chloride sucrose water for injection
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:29:03 GMT -7
He is One of dozens now coming out. There are dozens of ex-doctors getting disbarred because of this? That's a weird thing to cite to support your point. He is one of many listing the exact same argument. Is there no room for debate on any subject?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:31:30 GMT -7
He is One of dozens now coming out. Go to the pharmacy and ask to see the vaccine and open the sheet of ingredients...yes the blank sheet...then tell me how you make a informed consent? I got Zeneca Ingredients Medicinal ingredient Adenovirus vector vaccine Non-medicinal ingredients disodium edetate dihydrate (EDTA) ethanol L-histidine L-histidine hydrochloride monohydrate magnesium chloride hexahydrate polysorbate 80 sodium chloride sucrose water for injection And Pfizer Medicinal ingredient mRNA Non-medicinal ingredients ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate) ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine cholesterol dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate monobasic potassium phosphate potassium chloride sodium chloride sucrose water for injection www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-doctors-react-as-eu-countries-suspend-shot.html do you trust main stream media?
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Post by drtaf on Aug 13, 2021 13:36:02 GMT -7
Absolutely not!!! MSM is almost as bad as Social media for spreading crap. They use whatever narrative that generates biggest headlines ie biggest revenue.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 13:41:15 GMT -7
There are dozens of ex-doctors getting disbarred because of this? That's a weird thing to cite to support your point. He is one of many listing the exact same argument. Is there no room for debate on any subject? There is. We're debating it right now, and you brought him up.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 13:43:07 GMT -7
I got Zeneca Ingredients Medicinal ingredient Adenovirus vector vaccine Non-medicinal ingredients disodium edetate dihydrate (EDTA) ethanol L-histidine L-histidine hydrochloride monohydrate magnesium chloride hexahydrate polysorbate 80 sodium chloride sucrose water for injection And Pfizer Medicinal ingredient mRNA Non-medicinal ingredients ALC-0315 = ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate) ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine cholesterol dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate monobasic potassium phosphate potassium chloride sodium chloride sucrose water for injection www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-doctors-react-as-eu-countries-suspend-shot.html do you trust main stream media? Not really, but Oxford University doesn't have anything to gain. www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01359-3Also, your link goes to nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 14:01:56 GMT -7
link is alive and well...countries are stopping use of your vaccine is all. Sweden and Latvia on Tuesday joined a fast-growing list of European countries suspending the use of the vaccine as a precautionary measure following reports of blood clots. Germany, France, Italy and Spain on Monday said they would all stop administering the shot. The World Health Organization, Europe’s drug regulator and the International Society on Thrombosis and Hemostasis have all recommended that countries continue to use the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. “Halting a vaccine roll out during a pandemic has consequences,” said Dr. Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton, U.K. All I am stating is it will be interesting as we can see by the opinions here how the fan base of the Jets react. I think the reaction will be similar as you have percentages in both viewpoints expressing arguments to their beliefs. I'm thinking if you have 16,000 fans you could expect 40 to maybe 60% not happy. Then you will have other business connections to keep the arena going that will express their view points... The big challenge will be the player unions and if players refuse vaccination? legally it will be difficult to say all fans must be vaccinated if the players are not...that to me will raise legal arguments. A business cannot segregate all customers fit this requirement when their employees are allowed to operate at different requirements...you can expect that will be in the courts in no time flat. Regardless if you agree or disagree with the vaccinations...there cannot be two sets of rules as it would be discrimination.
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Post by fogolin2 on Aug 13, 2021 14:07:39 GMT -7
link is alive and well...countries are stopping use of your vaccine is all. Sweden and Latvia on Tuesday joined a fast-growing list of European countries suspending the use of the vaccine as a precautionary measure following reports of blood clots. Germany, France, Italy and Spain on Monday said they would all stop administering the shot. The World Health Organization, Europe’s drug regulator and the International Society on Thrombosis and Hemostasis have all recommended that countries continue to use the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. “Halting a vaccine roll out during a pandemic has consequences,” said Dr. Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton, U.K. All I am stating is it will be interesting as we can see by the opinions here how the fan base of the Jets react. I think the reaction will be similar as you have percentages in both viewpoints expressing arguments to their beliefs. I'm thinking if you have 16,000 fans you could expect 40 to maybe 60% not happy. Then you will have other business connections to keep the arena going that will express their view points... The big challenge will be the player unions and if players refuse vaccination? legally it will be difficult to say all fans must be vaccinated if the players are not...that to me will raise legal arguments. A business cannot segregate all customers fit this requirement when their employees are allowed to operate at different requirements...you can expect that will be in the courts in no time flat. Regardless if you agree or disagree with the vaccinations...there cannot be two sets of rules as it would be discrimination. Link says 'this article cannot be found' when I click it, but yes. The AZ blood clot thing is real. There has been a link established between the AstraZeneca vaccine and a very rare but serious side effect called thrombosis in combination with thrombocytopenia. There is a very low chance of this side effect, which may occur in around 4-6 people in every million after being vaccinated.Jun. 29, 2021 Does the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine cause blood clots?
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