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Post by mrtea on Feb 15, 2024 5:52:55 GMT -7
I was disagreeing with the top post, so you were disagreeing with my post which I responded to. If you were not disagreeing with my post, you would not have responded to it. Well, I gave you the only true explanation I have. This is not the first time you have tried to fight with me. Not going to happen. If all you wanted to do was respond to the previous poster, why did you respond to my post? Why didn't you just respond to the first poster? Your response just so happened to be directly opposite of what I was saying, so I responded. I was only voicing a different view point than what you posted, I was not trying to "fight " with you. I have no ill feelings or bad intentions towards you, in fact I think you are a good Oiler fan. I don't always agree with you and sometimes find you a bit "quirky", but I do respect your opinions. To prove what I am saying, I'll even apologize for ever giving you the impression that I wanted to "fight" with you. I think when reading other people's intentions on a site like this it is important to remember that it is sometimes hard to tell in what frame of mind the other person was in. Sometimes what seems sarcastic was not meant to be or vice versa. Many times the way words are arranged can give off different meanings depending on how they were delivered. In the future it might be helpful to remember that if I disagree with you it doesn't mean I want to take you out back and give you an "attitude adjustment".
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Post by sharptooth on Feb 15, 2024 6:04:13 GMT -7
I don’t know how anyone cannot like this signing. There is nothing to lose and I feel he adds an ingredient to our team that we just don’t have and haven’t had in a very long time. I love the signing tbh. Yeah it was a good singing who the heck is this poster? Lol. Haven’t seen you in a whole Moon. Where you been?
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Post by drtaf on Feb 15, 2024 9:47:50 GMT -7
Every team needs pests and Perry is one of the best, but top line pests are basically unicorns, there's Tkachuk, Marchand off top of my head? Perry was in that group about 5+yrs ago, but not anymore. He's a top line pest with 3rd-4th line skills/speed now. however he's being paid 4th line wages so I'm happy to have him aboard and any mins he gets in top 6 can be considered a bonus for him and once in a while its good to put a guy like him on the top lines to throw other teams off or keep them in check. Although he cant keep up as well, I think the top 6 brain is still there, so he doesnt look too outta place? I'm with T on this, moving up and down the line as needed is useful, but in a perfect world, we should keep him on 3-4th line. Unfortunately, we dont have an extra top 6 kicking around yet, so we mix/match and mumble along? If KH does get a top 6 before TDL, I still see Perry as being useful in the playoffs but there's no way we or anyone else should be paying him more than $1M. TBH, I was shocked when hawks gave him that amount! Perry was contributing quite a bit with the Hawks and had he stayed on the team and continued the entire season contributing at the rate he was it would have been a hell of a bargain for the Hawks imo. Maybe everyone's confused and thought we got Katy Perry to bolster the "back end" or "fill out the "top 6" ? And yeah, he was having a really good season with Hawks. But I have a theory that its easier to pick up points with a bottom feeder, because players may tend to focus more on personal success than team success? IMO its harder for players to rack up points on a good team because the focus is on a team result and enhanced defense? Although I can acknowledge there's an argument to be had that playing on a really good team with good players could make it easier to score points as well? I believe McDrai are slightly down this year because of the increased focus on D and team success (Although there is 1 significant outlier to this theory named Gretzky )
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Post by mrtea on Feb 15, 2024 11:49:32 GMT -7
Perry was contributing quite a bit with the Hawks and had he stayed on the team and continued the entire season contributing at the rate he was it would have been a hell of a bargain for the Hawks imo. Maybe everyone's confused and thought we got Katy Perry to bolster the "back end" or "fill out the "top 6" ? And yeah, he was having a really good season with Hawks. But I have a theory that its easier to pick up points with a bottom feeder, because players may tend to focus more on personal success than team success? IMO its harder for players to rack up points on a good team because the focus is on a team result and enhanced defense? Although I can acknowledge there's an argument to be had that playing on a really good team with good players could make it easier to score points as well? I believe McDrai are slightly down this year because of the increased focus on D and team success (Although there is 1 significant outlier to this theory named Gretzky ) Except as much of a Gretzky fan as I am, he only won cups with Edmonton. Once he left for other teams his cup did not runeth over.
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Post by drtaf on Feb 15, 2024 12:14:28 GMT -7
Maybe everyone's confused and thought we got Katy Perry to bolster the "back end" or "fill out the "top 6" ? And yeah, he was having a really good season with Hawks. But I have a theory that its easier to pick up points with a bottom feeder, because players may tend to focus more on personal success than team success? IMO its harder for players to rack up points on a good team because the focus is on a team result and enhanced defense? Although I can acknowledge there's an argument to be had that playing on a really good team with good players could make it easier to score points as well? I believe McDrai are slightly down this year because of the increased focus on D and team success (Although there is 1 significant outlier to this theory named Gretzky ) Except as much of a Gretzky fan as I am, he only won cups with Edmonton. Once he left for other teams his cup did not runeth over. I just meant he scored a lot of points while being on a very successful team, which kinda contradicts my opinion that its harder to get more points on a successful team. A good example would be Yzerman who used to light it up on those really bad wings teams, but got considerably less points once detroit started to be very successful and he became more "defensively aware". Off the top of my head, I cant think of a good modern example, but maybe that is what is happening to McD now??
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Post by sharptooth on Feb 15, 2024 14:19:24 GMT -7
I was disagreeing with the top post, so you were disagreeing with my post which I responded to. If you were not disagreeing with my post, you would not have responded to it. Well, I gave you the only true explanation I have. This is not the first time you have tried to fight with me. Not going to happen. I hope you’re not disagreeing with me cause you know what will happen! 😉
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Post by drtaf on Feb 15, 2024 15:36:07 GMT -7
Well, I gave you the only true explanation I have. This is not the first time you have tried to fight with me. Not going to happen. I hope you’re not disagreeing with me cause you know what will happen! 😉 Calm Down!
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Post by sharptooth on Feb 15, 2024 15:42:14 GMT -7
I hope you’re not disagreeing with me cause you know what will happen! 😉 Calm Down! Lmao!!!
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Post by Moon Knight on Feb 15, 2024 17:20:23 GMT -7
Yeah it was a good singing who the heck is this poster? Lol. Haven’t seen you in a whole Moon. Where you been? Oh I just took a break.
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Post by sharptooth on Feb 15, 2024 18:05:19 GMT -7
Lol. Haven’t seen you in a whole Moon. Where you been? Oh I just took a break. Lol. Welcome back
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Post by Moon Knight on Feb 16, 2024 1:53:26 GMT -7
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Post by Moon Knight on Feb 21, 2024 22:40:04 GMT -7
So how about Cory perry
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Post by toley on Feb 22, 2024 10:13:35 GMT -7
So how about Cory perry Well I mean, the Op hasn't posted anything else since starting this thread, that I've seen. I was never opposed of Oilers signing Perry, adds grit and intelligence to the team, we don't know what happened with the Blackhawks Organization and Perry. There shouldn't be any reason for the hate.
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Post by mrtea on Feb 22, 2024 11:37:04 GMT -7
So how about Cory perry Well I mean, the Op hasn't posted anything else since starting this thread, that I've seen. I was never opposed of Oilers signing Perry, adds grit and intelligence to the team, we don't know what happened with the Blackhawks Organization and Perry. There shouldn't be any reason for the hate. Every hockey fan has a handful of players they like and the same goes for players they don't like. Who knows why, sometimes it's quirky little things and other times it's down right total disgust. Evander Kane was a guy I had no use for because of the media clips I saw about him. I would not have believed anyone that told me he would be one of my favorite Oilers, especially if they said how good he is to under privileged kids at Christmas time. Either the media only hyped his "spoiled hockey star" image or he has done a ton of growing up, or better yet.....a little bit of each side of the subject.
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Post by toley on Feb 22, 2024 11:55:46 GMT -7
Well I mean, the Op hasn't posted anything else since starting this thread, that I've seen. I was never opposed of Oilers signing Perry, adds grit and intelligence to the team, we don't know what happened with the Blackhawks Organization and Perry. There shouldn't be any reason for the hate. Every hockey fan has a handful of players they like and the same goes for players they don't like. Who knows why, sometimes it's quirky little things and other times it's down right total disgust. Evander Kane was a guy I had no use for because of the media clips I saw about him. I would not have believed anyone that told me he would be one of my favorite Oilers, especially if they said how good he is to under privileged kids at Christmas time. Either the media only hyped his "spoiled hockey star" image or he has done a ton of growing up, or better yet.....a little bit of each side of the subject. Kane is different, he had way more off-ice issues then Perry. I was the same way, I thought Kane would slow tear a rift in the room, like in Winnipeg but I think it was just the Jets, as well Kane stated he hated going from Atlanta to Winnipeg.
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Post by Moon Knight on Feb 22, 2024 14:29:48 GMT -7
So how about Cory perry Well I mean, the Op hasn't posted anything else since starting this thread, that I've seen. I was never opposed of Oilers signing Perry, adds grit and intelligence to the team, we don't know what happened with the Blackhawks Organization and Perry. There shouldn't be any reason for the hate. I know but the op is down right wrong
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Post by Moon Knight on Feb 22, 2024 14:31:06 GMT -7
Well I mean, the Op hasn't posted anything else since starting this thread, that I've seen. I was never opposed of Oilers signing Perry, adds grit and intelligence to the team, we don't know what happened with the Blackhawks Organization and Perry. There shouldn't be any reason for the hate. Every hockey fan has a handful of players they like and the same goes for players they don't like. Who knows why, sometimes it's quirky little things and other times it's down right total disgust. Evander Kane was a guy I had no use for because of the media clips I saw about him. I would not have believed anyone that told me he would be one of my favorite Oilers, especially if they said how good he is to under privileged kids at Christmas time. Either the media only hyped his "spoiled hockey star" image or he has done a ton of growing up, or better yet.....a little bit of each side of the subject. It still not a reason to make a ridiculous threadmlike this.
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Post by mrtea on Feb 22, 2024 15:43:16 GMT -7
Every hockey fan has a handful of players they like and the same goes for players they don't like. Who knows why, sometimes it's quirky little things and other times it's down right total disgust. Evander Kane was a guy I had no use for because of the media clips I saw about him. I would not have believed anyone that told me he would be one of my favorite Oilers, especially if they said how good he is to under privileged kids at Christmas time. Either the media only hyped his "spoiled hockey star" image or he has done a ton of growing up, or better yet.....a little bit of each side of the subject. It still not a reason to make a ridiculous threadmlike this. Who's to say if it is or isn't a ridiculous thread, not me and not you.....it's above our pay grade. If the mods have a problem with it, they'll solve it.
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Post by drtaf on Feb 22, 2024 16:00:49 GMT -7
It still not a reason to make a ridiculous threadmlike this. Who's to say if it is or isn't a ridiculous thread, not me and not you.....it's above our pay grade. If the mods have a problem with it, they'll solve it. From my POV, although the thread started in a negative light, it's evolved into a good, commonsense debate of the pros and cons of signing him, much like all the other threads that were started when we signed someone new. And just like all the other threads, there's folks who love the signing, whose who hate, those in the middle and those who'll wait and see before proclaiming good or bad? Given we have so few options to add and improve the team, especially at min wage, I like the addition and he didnt cost an asset, so even better!
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Post by neufab94 on Feb 23, 2024 16:48:13 GMT -7
Who's to say if it is or isn't a ridiculous thread, not me and not you.....it's above our pay grade. If the mods have a problem with it, they'll solve it. From my POV, although the thread started in a negative light, it's evolved into a good, commonsense debate of the pros and cons of signing him, much like all the other threads that were started when we signed someone new. And just like all the other threads, there's folks who love the signing, whose who hate, those in the middle and those who'll wait and see before proclaiming good or bad? Given we have so few options to add and improve the team, especially at min wage, I like the addition and he didnt cost an asset, so even better! I can be found earlier saying negative things about the signing. At this point, Brown is my least favorite Oiler but if he rides out the season in the press box then that would make it better. Maybe he is a nice, but he has not played well all year, so let him be a nice guy in the stands. As for Perry, I admit that he brings a certain type of game that the Oilers needed but they haven't won anything yet. I still don't like Perry and my reasons are mostly sentimental because of the Oilers/Ducks pad grab that cost the Oilers the series. In all fairness, I dislike the refs more. I hold it against Perry because he committed the foul. He has not yet made up for that.
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