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Post by yuke on Jul 15, 2024 14:19:44 GMT -7
Why not wait for the trade deadline to move Bourgault? From what little I've read, getting a possible NHL player back for XB is a win. |
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Post by toley on Jul 15, 2024 14:50:39 GMT -7
Why not wait for the trade deadline to move Bourgault? From what little I've read, getting a possible NHL player back for XB is a win. So make him a throw in to a actually NHL player at the deadline, weird deal. |
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Post by yuke on Jul 15, 2024 16:15:01 GMT -7
From what little I've read, getting a possible NHL player back for XB is a win. So make him a throw in to a actually NHL player at the deadline, weird deal. Maybe the new guy has better trade value, and waiver exempt. just guessing. |
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 15, 2024 16:34:40 GMT -7
Time will tell with this trade. I'm ok losing XB and JC. I have no idea on the new guy RJ but it sounds like the org have wanted this kid for awhile and they got him now. Big winger with skill and size and a low draft pick for XB who took a massive step back last year in all areas of his game from what I read and Chiasson who will likely never see the NHL. At the very least I'd say we improved the farm with this trade as the Condors need more beef in their line-up but with potential. I'm not saying XB is a bust, but it wasn't working for him here. Welcome to the org Roby!
Savoie, Philp, Lavoie, O'Reilly, and now Jarventie all look promising forward prospects.
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 15, 2024 16:48:58 GMT -7
So make him a throw in to a actually NHL player at the deadline, weird deal. Maybe the new guy has better trade value, and waiver exempt. just guessing. He's exempt for this year yup. On his last year of his ELC.
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Post by fogolin2 on Jul 15, 2024 19:21:15 GMT -7
Why not wait for the trade deadline to move Bourgault? Why wait? He wasn't displacing anyone to earn a spot here. |
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Post by toley on Jul 15, 2024 21:12:46 GMT -7
Why not wait for the trade deadline to move Bourgault? Why wait? He wasn't displacing anyone to earn a spot here. Cause I would have rather got an NHLer in the process. |
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Post by drtaf on Jul 16, 2024 8:57:22 GMT -7
Why wait? He wasn't displacing anyone to earn a spot here. Cause I would have rather got an NHLer in the process. XB wasn't getting us an NHLer at TDL, at best he'd be a throw in. Roby has at least had a cup of coffee in the NHL already and maybe he will miraculously put his injury history behind him and shine in the AHL and really push for a spot? It sounds like XB took steps back from pushing for a NHL spot and was barely AHL by the end of last year. I think this is just darts being thrown at a wall to see if any might stick? and we freed up a spot and picked up a 4th rnd pick which we have been quite good with lately? ie a future asset, whereas Chiasson is no longer really an asset if we're honest. If XB or Roby ever become NHLers, it will be somewhat of a big surprise for either team IMO?
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Post by toley on Jul 16, 2024 9:34:31 GMT -7
Cause I would have rather got an NHLer in the process. XB wasn't getting us an NHLer at TDL, at best he'd be a throw in. Roby has at least had a cup of coffee in the NHL already and maybe he will miraculously put his injury history behind him and shine in the AHL and really push for a spot? It sounds like XB took steps back from pushing for a NHL spot and was barely AHL by the end of last year. I think this is just darts being thrown at a wall to see if any might stick? and we freed up a spot and picked up a 4th rnd pick which we have been quite good with lately? ie a future asset, whereas Chiasson is no longer really an asset if we're honest. If XB or Roby ever become NHLers, it will be somewhat of a big surprise for either team IMO? I know, I called him a throw in to a trade deadline deal earlier. But giving up Bourgault at deadline I think is better than a later pick. |
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Post by mrtea on Jul 16, 2024 9:39:56 GMT -7
I have two thoughts on why this minor trade happened. First the Oilers are short of draft picks and picking up a draft pick is good for the organization. Second was to give XB a chance to become an NHLer on a team that has a spot in the near future, there would be no spot on the Oilers for a few years unless the prospect was lights out good. XB's regression could very well be from him not seeing any opportunity to be an NHLer with the Oilers. Also if he regressed that easily maybe they want someone mentally tougher.
My take is "Yay, we got a draft pick more than we had!".
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Post by fogolin2 on Jul 16, 2024 10:45:33 GMT -7
I have two thoughts on why this minor trade happened. First the Oilers are short of draft picks and picking up a draft pick is good for the organization. Second was to give XB a chance to become an NHLer on a team that has a spot in the near future, there would be no spot on the Oilers for a few years unless the prospect was lights out good. XB's regression could very well be from him not seeing any opportunity to be an NHLer with the Oilers. Also if he regressed that easily maybe they want someone mentally tougher. My take is "Yay, we got a draft pick more than we had!". I think all of this is correct. Trading one guy held back by opportunity for a guy held back by injuries, is a fine deal. Hope it works out for all involved.
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 17, 2024 9:08:27 GMT -7
9 weeks till pre-season!  |
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 21, 2024 16:12:36 GMT -7
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Post by mrtea on Jul 24, 2024 7:20:45 GMT -7
So now it's official Stan Bowman is the Oilers latest GM, it's also official that Jackson is capable of making mistakes. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I really do not like the optics that come with this hiring. I would have preferred a GM who personified a bright future and optimism, not a guy who just steered an NHL organization through crap just to have the crap resurface twice as bad later.
Hopefully we never see any type of scandal like what happened with the Blackhawks, but we know we've got the guy that can bury it until it festers enough to ruin careers. Maybe he's really learned his lesson as some have reported, but I hope we never have to find out if he's learned how to properly deal with dark cancerous situations.
I truly hope I'm wrong, but like Han Solo said, "I've got a bad feeling about this."
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Post by Bronco73 on Jul 24, 2024 10:34:29 GMT -7
Looking forward for the entertainment that will follow. See nothing on this lol, there is plenty of drama that follows the old Hawks management group. where's the verified link?? 
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Post by windsoroiler on Jul 24, 2024 11:07:49 GMT -7
Stan Bowman may not be the best news...
However, no one mentioned Coffey coming back as an assistant coach. Late to the party on this news which is excellent!
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Post by windsoroiler on Jul 24, 2024 11:16:16 GMT -7
OMG the drama coming after this move, know HH and others posted a long write up on Bowman's tenure and Kennedy's vouch for him so see what happens...
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 24, 2024 12:02:05 GMT -7
Not sure where I'm at with this one. If Beach is ok with it, I'm ok with it, I guess. Not a great look. But if he's made amends, I do believe in 2nd chances.
Trying to find the positives, I really like/d his dad Scotty and got to meet him lol when he was with the Wings. I'll have to look up Stan's moves as a GM with Cago but from what I've read so far nothing outstanding, though he did help lead them to 3 Stanley Cups. I see our team as near complete and perhaps only a few tweaks needed so I'm not sure it really matters who our GM is, as all moves will be stamped by JJ. Nonetheless, Welcome to the org Stan.
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Post by drtaf on Jul 24, 2024 12:32:21 GMT -7
Not sure where I'm at with this one. If Beach is ok with it, I'm ok with it, I guess. Not a great look. But if he's made amends, I do believe in 2nd chances. Trying to find the positives, I really like/d his dad Scotty and got to meet him lol when he was with the Wings. I'll have to look up Stan's moves as a GM with Cago but from what I've read so far nothing outstanding, though he did help lead them to 3 Stanley Cups. I see our team as near complete and perhaps only a few tweaks needed so I'm not sure it really matters who our GM is, as all moves will be stamped by JJ. Nonetheless, Welcome to the org Stan. LOL I was going to post if anyone would be brave enough to post a "Welcome to the org Stan" thread, but you kind of just did  . Nice one HH. Let's hope this season we keep moving forward, we literally only have one more step to go!!
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Post by happyhappy on Jul 24, 2024 17:40:52 GMT -7
Not sure where I'm at with this one. If Beach is ok with it, I'm ok with it, I guess. Not a great look. But if he's made amends, I do believe in 2nd chances. Trying to find the positives, I really like/d his dad Scotty and got to meet him lol when he was with the Wings. I'll have to look up Stan's moves as a GM with Cago but from what I've read so far nothing outstanding, though he did help lead them to 3 Stanley Cups. I see our team as near complete and perhaps only a few tweaks needed so I'm not sure it really matters who our GM is, as all moves will be stamped by JJ. Nonetheless, Welcome to the org Stan. LOL I was going to post if anyone would be brave enough to post a "Welcome to the org Stan" thread, but you kind of just did . Nice one HH. Let's hope this season we keep moving forward, we literally only have one more step to go!! Haha nah not that bold. I'm not sure I welcome him anyway. This could be a major blunder on JJ's resume. Again, I'm not sure where I stand with this one. I know I don't support the decision, there were other serviceable options. Regardless, due to the acts that occurred, it's hard for me to support the org in this decision let alone support Stan. Ok I guess I do know where I stand, I just had to say it lol. He's here now though, like it or not. 
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. Nice one HH. Let's hope this season we keep moving forward, we literally only have one more step to go!!
