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Post by igibb on Mar 26, 2021 12:23:34 GMT -7
The game requirements for the expansion draft have been pro-rated due to the two shortened seasons so the numbers Bronco posted are not correct. Here is the section (63) that explains it: media.nhl.com/site/asset/public/ext/2020-21/2020-21TransitionRulesCriticalDates.pdfThe new numbers are as follows: They have to be under contract in 2021-22 They played in 27 or more NHL games in 2020-21 OR They played in 54 or more NHL games in 2019-20- and 2020-21 combined That may change a few things with our plans. It definitely complicates things if we can't claim that Klef's injury is career threatening to get him exempt. We are also at a point cap wise where Holland said any salary coming in has to be going out. We have about $700,000 left on the LTIR now that pretty much everyone is back off it other than Klef and Koek which makes things extremely difficult unless we can unload an unwanted contract like Neal. 27 or more games in 2020-21? Could that be one of the reasons why Bouchard isn’t playing much? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It very well might be. You didn't want to be in the situation where you have to play him and it puts you at the point that he has to be protected because he has already played a bunch of games when it wasn't necessary.
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Post by happyhappy on Mar 26, 2021 16:49:39 GMT -7
Thanx!
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Post by fogolin2 on Mar 26, 2021 21:07:27 GMT -7
27 or more games in 2020-21? Could that be one of the reasons why Bouchard isn’t playing much? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It very well might be. You didn't want to be in the situation where you have to play him and it puts you at the point that he has to be protected because he has already played a bunch of games when it wasn't necessary. Bing!! The light comes on....thanks fellas
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Post by fogolin2 on Mar 27, 2021 22:15:05 GMT -7
Note the date. He wasn't wrong.
Cam “Home Run” Lewis @cooom · Nov 29, 2013 Kuzmenko god damn I swear that 14 year old kid in the OHL David McDavid or whatever is ready better than like all of the oilers FFS
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Post by fogolin2 on Mar 28, 2021 18:08:50 GMT -7
Mike Hoffman is a healthy scratch tonight for for the Blues. If he's not already traded, should we kick the tires?
Expiring this year $4m. Only 8g in 33gp, and another guy heading for his 4th team since 2018....something stinky there, but could be a scoring top6 winger for a playoff run
Straight up for Russell?....a guy can dream....
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Post by blackhawk216 on Mar 28, 2021 18:58:56 GMT -7
Mike Hoffman is a healthy scratch tonight for for the Blues. If he's not already traded, should we kick the tires? Expiring this year $4m. Only 8g in 33gp, and another guy heading for his 4th team since 2018....something stinky there, but could be a scoring top6 winger for a playoff run Straight up for Russell?....a guy can dream.... Love your suggestion Fogs, but the Blues GM would have to be on drugs to do that deal, unless there are issues with Hoffman in the dressing room or similar. 8g in 33 gp still translates to a virtual 20 goal full normal NHL season......not that bad and would surely be more playing alongside one or two of our players.
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Post by igibb on Mar 29, 2021 8:48:55 GMT -7
If Klef is deemed a career threatening injury, which by a few accounts I have read he probably will have to be, trading Russell would mean we would have to expose Nurse, Bear or Jones in the Expansion Draft as they are the only other defensemen we have under contract next year that meet the requirements. The entire reason for signing Russell for another year was so we wouldn't have to do that. It could put us down 2 defenceman next season.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Mar 29, 2021 9:40:35 GMT -7
If Klef is deemed a career threatening injury, which by a few accounts I have read he probably will have to be, trading Russell would mean we would have to expose Nurse, Bear or Jones in the Expansion Draft as they are the only other defensemen we have under contract next year that meet the requirements. The entire reason for signing Russell for another year was so we wouldn't have to do that. It could put us down 2 defenceman next season. Even if we still have Russell, one of Lagesson or Jones will have to be exposed unless Tip limits Lags to only 11 more games this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by igibb on Mar 29, 2021 10:39:02 GMT -7
If Klef is deemed a career threatening injury, which by a few accounts I have read he probably will have to be, trading Russell would mean we would have to expose Nurse, Bear or Jones in the Expansion Draft as they are the only other defensemen we have under contract next year that meet the requirements. The entire reason for signing Russell for another year was so we wouldn't have to do that. It could put us down 2 defenceman next season. Even if we still have Russell, one of Lagesson or Jones will have to be exposed unless Tip limits Lags to only 11 more games this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lagesson has played in less than 50% the games so far so if he stays with that pace he will not have played enough games. Barring any injuries I would guess they are going to do what they can to spread the games around to keep players under their numbers as best they can. It's not like any of these players are outperforming any of the others by a huge margin. I would assume we will protect Jones, Nurse and Bear as it doesn't sound like we will even be allowed to use Klef if we wanted to due to his injury. It is definitely an odd year.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Mar 29, 2021 11:36:27 GMT -7
Even if we still have Russell, one of Lagesson or Jones will have to be exposed unless Tip limits Lags to only 11 more games this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lagesson has played in less than 50% the games so far so if he stays with that pace he will not have played enough games. Barring any injuries I would guess they are going to do what they can to spread the games around to keep players under their numbers as best they can. It's not like any of these players are outperforming any of the others by a huge margin. I would assume we will protect Jones, Nurse and Bear as it doesn't sound like we will even be allowed to use Klef if we wanted to due to his injury. It is definitely an odd year. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to play 11 of the last 21. Him and Larsson have been a pretty good pairing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 23:56:01 GMT -7
Waive Kostawin now!!!
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Post by onebit on Mar 31, 2021 8:35:10 GMT -7
Lagesson has played in less than 50% the games so far so if he stays with that pace he will not have played enough games. Barring any injuries I would guess they are going to do what they can to spread the games around to keep players under their numbers as best they can. It's not like any of these players are outperforming any of the others by a huge margin. I would assume we will protect Jones, Nurse and Bear as it doesn't sound like we will even be allowed to use Klef if we wanted to due to his injury. It is definitely an odd year. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to play 11 of the last 21. Him and Larsson have been a pretty good pairing. I loved Laggeson earlier in the year but dont think he's has been good lately. His defending is "ok" but hasn't been able to move the puck north for awhile. I think he needs a few games in the press box to get a different view of the game.
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Post by windsoroiler on Mar 31, 2021 9:26:03 GMT -7
Agreed on Lag.
One player I would love to have is Mantha out of Detroit. It's wishful thinking.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Mar 31, 2021 9:27:36 GMT -7
I don't think it's unreasonable for him to play 11 of the last 21. Him and Larsson have been a pretty good pairing. I loved Laggeson earlier in the year but dont think he's has been good lately. His defending is "ok" but hasn't been able to move the puck north for awhile. I think he needs a few games in the press box to get a different view of the game. All that’s happening is a rookie making rookie mistakes. He’s played a total of 25 games in the NHL. The kid is gonna make some rookie mistakes, especially when the entire team is playing bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by windsoroiler on Mar 31, 2021 9:35:47 GMT -7
I loved Laggeson earlier in the year but dont think he's has been good lately. His defending is "ok" but hasn't been able to move the puck north for awhile. I think he needs a few games in the press box to get a different view of the game. All that’s happening is a rookie making rookie mistakes. He’s played a total of 25 games in the NHL. The kid is gonna make some rookie mistakes, especially when the entire team is playing bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So he should be on the 3rd pair and on the PK if he is good at it.
Florida needs D help with Ekblad out. Jackets need a good C. Sabres are going to clean house somewhat (would love Reinhart)
You don't wan't to waste McD's window but with the expansion have to be very careful.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Mar 31, 2021 9:39:53 GMT -7
All that’s happening is a rookie making rookie mistakes. He’s played a total of 25 games in the NHL. The kid is gonna make some rookie mistakes, especially when the entire team is playing bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So he should be on the 3rd pair and on the PK if he is good at it.
Florida needs D help with Ekblad out. Jackets need a good C. Sabres are going to clean house somewhat (would love Reinhart)
You don't wan't to waste McD's window but with the expansion have to be very careful.
I agree, second pairing is a bit too much for him, but the issue is he has the best chemistry with Larsson and Larsson has been playing like a second pairing D again (mostly anyway). And, I honestly don’t think we’re much better off if Russell moves up and Lagesson moves down to play with Bear. We might be worse off having two young D that have been making young D mistakes this year play together. Both Lags and Bear are better off playing with a vet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by onebit on Mar 31, 2021 11:33:51 GMT -7
So he should be on the 3rd pair and on the PK if he is good at it.
Florida needs D help with Ekblad out. Jackets need a good C. Sabres are going to clean house somewhat (would love Reinhart)
You don't wan't to waste McD's window but with the expansion have to be very careful.
I agree, second pairing is a bit too much for him, but the issue is he has the best chemistry with Larsson and Larsson has been playing like a second pairing D again (mostly anyway). And, I honestly don’t think we’re much better off if Russell moves up and Lagesson moves down to play with Bear. We might be worse off having two young D that have been making young D mistakes this year play together. Both Lags and Bear are better off playing with a vet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 100% agree with you. Partnering two rookies put neither in a position to succeed. I'm not suggesting press box as a penalty, more as a reset/teaching tool. Seems that a hint of panic has crept into his game and he needs to see that he has more time to make plays than he thinks. Lately, his zone exits have all consisted of dumping the puck to center when often there are better plays available. Nurse used to be like that but this year, he's so much more patient with the puck in his own end. Laggs could use a couple games watching Nurse.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Mar 31, 2021 18:28:39 GMT -7
Normally, cap hits are pro-rated by season days and cap space accrues. With 25 per cent of days left, a $4 million player only counts $1 million for the new team, increasing the deadline buying power. However, there is no pro-rating or accruing space in LTIR. Therefore, instead of needing space for 25 per cent of a player’s cap hit, an LTIR team needs to fit 100 per cent of the AAV. The Oilers are already maxed out.
This means the Oilers are essentially screwed at the deadline unless they make dollar in dollar out trades.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Apr 1, 2021 13:28:39 GMT -7
Would Nikita Gusev we an option for some secondary scoring? Sure he’s having a rough year, but he did get 44 points in 66 games last season. We may be able to get him at half salary, and his contract is done this year. It’s a low risk pick up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 18:06:45 GMT -7
I'd like to see the Oil go after some players with size and grit who can contribute. I think once the playoffs come it will expose our team having many small skilled players. Archie and Yamamotto play big for their size. I wish we could find a Matt Hendricks type player that goes out there like a spark plug and gets the whole team involved to follow his lead... I find when the Oilers start hitting as a group good things always follow.
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