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Post by toley on Apr 4, 2021 8:48:38 GMT -7
Came across this on BLH, trade proposal off the Athletic. Was wondering thoughts on it.
John Gibson for 2021 and 2022 first-round picks, Koskinen, Chiasson, Raphael Lavoie and Olivier Rodrigue
Personally, I'd retool it. Take out Lavoie, for someone like Tullio, and have Anaheim add a prospect or later round pick.
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Post by discostew on Apr 4, 2021 9:11:27 GMT -7
I'd do that trade doubt Anaheim would.
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Post by toley on Apr 4, 2021 9:44:06 GMT -7
Depends on Anaheim internal window, the 2 firsts should be in the ballpark, Chaisson and Koskinen would be the money, and Koskinen only has a year after this.
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Post by drtaf on Apr 4, 2021 9:48:26 GMT -7
2 1sts for a goalie is insanity unless his name is hellebuyck and even then I personally wouldn’t do it. Goalies will become available for a lot less than that. When was the last time someone traded 2 1sts for a goalie??
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Apr 4, 2021 9:53:06 GMT -7
2 1sts for a goalie is insanity unless his name is hellebuyck and even then I personally wouldn’t do it. Goalies will become available for a lot less than that. When was the last time someone traded 2 1sts for a goalie?? I agree. I'd almost want to wait until a UFA becomes available or Konovalov is ready. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk
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Post by toley on Apr 4, 2021 9:58:24 GMT -7
2 1sts for a goalie is insanity unless his name is hellebuyck and even then I personally wouldn’t do it. Goalies will become available for a lot less than that. When was the last time someone traded 2 1sts for a goalie?? True, looking at his stats this year, they're not good. John Gibson 20-21 Anaheim Ducks NHL 24 3.02 .897 But the Ducks aren't good, so it's hard to base this on that. Gibson and Hellebuyck are probably the only ones that I think would cost a first.
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Post by drtaf on Apr 4, 2021 13:07:35 GMT -7
The one thing I would “waste” a 1st on would be to tie it to Neal and get rid of that contract. If KH could deal Neal and a 1st to someone for any kind of warm body with low salary and/or short contract I’d be happy for him to do it. My fantasy would be Connor Garland 😉
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Post by fogolin2 on Apr 4, 2021 13:21:37 GMT -7
Came across this on BLH, trade proposal off the Athletic. Was wondering thoughts on it. John Gibson for 2021 and 2022 first-round picks, Koskinen, Chiasson, Raphael Lavoie and Olivier Rodrigue Personally, I'd retool it. Take out Lavoie, for someone like Tullio, and have Anaheim add a prospect or later round pick. Insane to pay this for a goalie. I hope the Flames or Canucks do that deal.
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Post by Bronco73 on Apr 4, 2021 13:57:33 GMT -7
Came across this on BLH, trade proposal off the Athletic. Was wondering thoughts on it. John Gibson for 2021 and 2022 first-round picks, Koskinen, Chiasson, Raphael Lavoie and Olivier Rodrigue Personally, I'd retool it. Take out Lavoie, for someone like Tullio, and have Anaheim add a prospect or later round pick. Insane to pay this for a goalie. I hope the Flames or Canucks do that deal. yup. ridiculous frankly.
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Post by SuperDave17 on Apr 4, 2021 14:43:19 GMT -7
2 1sts for a goalie is insanity unless his name is hellebuyck and even then I personally wouldn’t do it. Goalies will become available for a lot less than that. When was the last time someone traded 2 1sts for a goalie?? I agree. I'd almost want to wait until a UFA becomes available or Konovalov is ready. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk Ullmark would be my UFA target of choice.
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Post by fogolin2 on Apr 4, 2021 15:13:06 GMT -7
I agree. I'd almost want to wait until a UFA becomes available or Konovalov is ready. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk Ullmark would be my UFA target of choice. Might be a few to choose from ; Ullmark Rittich Mrazek Brossoit Grubauer Driedger Allen I'd love to see if Brossoit mifght rejoin us, but I don't blame him if he doesn't want to.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Apr 4, 2021 15:14:05 GMT -7
I agree. I'd almost want to wait until a UFA becomes available or Konovalov is ready. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk Ullmark would be my UFA target of choice. I wanna trade for Merz or Korps. Sent from my SM-G998W using Tapatalk
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Post by Bronco73 on Apr 4, 2021 15:45:02 GMT -7
I agree with SD, I'd target Ullmark. The guy is ridiculous. Look at who he plays for. Even last year he was the sole reason they were even competitive. He's got the cheddar IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 15:54:48 GMT -7
Came across this on BLH, trade proposal off the Athletic. Was wondering thoughts on it. John Gibson for 2021 and 2022 first-round picks, Koskinen, Chiasson, Raphael Lavoie and Olivier Rodrigue Personally, I'd retool it. Take out Lavoie, for someone like Tullio, and have Anaheim add a prospect or later round pick. Insane to pay this for a goalie. I hope the Flames or Canucks do that deal. I agree. Easter weekend and fogs loving his neighbor's in the division...oh man that second sentence had me laughing!
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Post by discostew on Apr 4, 2021 16:12:25 GMT -7
Came across this on BLH, trade proposal off the Athletic. Was wondering thoughts on it. John Gibson for 2021 and 2022 first-round picks, Koskinen, Chiasson, Raphael Lavoie and Olivier Rodrigue Personally, I'd retool it. Take out Lavoie, for someone like Tullio, and have Anaheim add a prospect or later round pick. Insane to pay this for a goalie. I hope the Flames or Canucks do that deal. I understand this. But Kosk and Chaisson are salary dumps. And its 2 late 1sts (obviously a partial assumption but we are top 10 and Gibson should make us better). I wouldnt trade Lavoie but the rest to me checks out
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Post by fogolin2 on Apr 4, 2021 16:27:23 GMT -7
Insane to pay this for a goalie. I hope the Flames or Canucks do that deal. I understand this. But Kosk and Chaisson are salary dumps. And its 2 late 1sts (obviously a partial assumption but we are top 10 and Gibson should make us better). I wouldnt trade Lavoie but the rest to me checks out Maybe you've got a better handle on goalies than I've got. It's too unpredictable of a position, to me....but you might be on to something. I keep saynig we have to stop wasting McD and Drai years, and this would be an aggressive step in that direction.
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Post by toley on Apr 4, 2021 19:39:54 GMT -7
I understand this. But Kosk and Chaisson are salary dumps. And its 2 late 1sts (obviously a partial assumption but we are top 10 and Gibson should make us better). I wouldnt trade Lavoie but the rest to me checks out Maybe you've got a better handle on goalies than I've got. It's too unpredictable of a position, to me....but you might be on to something. I keep saynig we have to stop wasting McD and Drai years, and this would be an aggressive step in that direction. Goaltending is an anomaly, look at Smith. Although, I do like Gibson. I think there is something there. From Oilers Now radio, in February
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Post by fogolin2 on Apr 4, 2021 19:48:23 GMT -7
Maybe you've got a better handle on goalies than I've got. It's too unpredictable of a position, to me....but you might be on to something. I keep saynig we have to stop wasting McD and Drai years, and this would be an aggressive step in that direction. Goaltending is an anomaly, look at Smith. Although, I do like Gibson. I think there is something there. From Oilers Now radio, in February I'd rather give up 2 firsts than a 1st and Broberg. We won't be picking in the top 10 for a few years, I hope. Seems too big to be possible, but could be worth some long distance on KHs cellphone.
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Post by windsoroiler on Apr 4, 2021 19:57:36 GMT -7
Smith is playing good, Stalock is good insurance. You pick up a goalie for free in the offseason without giving up all those assets. If all our goalies were playing bad it would be a different story
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Post by toley on Apr 4, 2021 20:01:20 GMT -7
Goaltending is an anomaly, look at Smith. Although, I do like Gibson. I think there is something there. From Oilers Now radio, in February I'd rather give up 2 firsts than a 1st and Broberg. We won't be picking in the top 10 for a few years, I hope. Seems too big to be possible, but could be worth some long distance on KHs cellphone. Yeah, I think what Stauffer offered is a bit much, all those players are former first rounders, why I think the offer from the Athletic I found is what should be closer to realistic.
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