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Post by yuke on Jan 28, 2022 22:38:14 GMT -7
Draisaitl would be the best left winger McDavid ever had but Kane is going to improve this team immensely. OK yuke, have it your way, I will adjust my comment by saying Kane will be the best LW that McDavid has had that has not weakened the second line.......in fact it now strengthens the second line as it frees up RNH to vacate his spot on the first line. Also, with all due respect to Leon.............Kane brings other weapons that Leon does not.....toughness, the ability to ride shotgun for Connor, not to mention he can fight with the best of them..........and is somewhat of an unknown quantity and perhaps a bit quicker than Leon. So again, with all due respect to Leon, I don't fully agree with you from a team viewpoint......but I can see why you would have that opinion. If Kane comes even close to Draisatl in talent we are in for a treat
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Post by oilyfan on Jan 29, 2022 8:41:56 GMT -7
Kane is a more talented Matt Tkachuk. He will get under opponents skin, BUT he will also be able to get retribution on anyone taking liberties with McD. Also, I'm a bit confused about Hyman. Hoping someone here can help. Before, or just after we signed, I'm sure I read he's more affective on the RW then the LW, where he's been playing. Yet DN/TG's podcast yesterday Tom was 'surprised' to hear that he was a better RW? Did I misread that last summer?
Anywho - my lines are: (LW/Center/RW)
Kane/McDavid/Hyman Foegle/Drai/JP McLeod/RNH/Yamm Shore/Ryan/Kassian (though either Shore/Scev can swap at center and Benson can go on LW as well with the one not being the center sitting)
Odd man out - Scevior who was put on waivers anyway - to make room for Kane and to join the taxi squad if no one picks him up
I think it's time to give Foegle a chance on second line. I also think Having RNH on a third line is better. Not sure Tipp will go that way though.
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Post by Bronco73 on Jan 29, 2022 9:19:13 GMT -7
Kane is a more talented Matt Tkachuk. He will get under opponents skin, BUT he will also be able to get retribution on anyone taking liberties with McD. Also, I'm a bit confused about Hyman. Hoping someone here can help. Before, or just after we signed, I'm sure I read he's more affective on the RW then the LW, where he's been playing. Yet DN/TG's podcast yesterday Tom was 'surprised' to hear that he was a better RW? Did I misread that last summer? Anywho - my lines are: (LW/Center/RW) Kane/McDavid/Hyman Foegle/Drai/JP McLeod/RNH/Yamm Shore/Ryan/Kassian (though either Shore/Scev can swap at center and Benson can go on LW as well with the one not being the center sitting) Odd man out - Scevior who was put on waivers anyway - to make room for Kane and to join the taxi squad if no one picks him up I think it's time to give Foegle a chance on second line. I also think Having RNH on a third line is better. Not sure Tipp will go that way though. SO many options with Kane in the fold. There is tons of flexibility in this roster now. Still have boatloads of work to do at D and G
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jan 29, 2022 9:53:29 GMT -7
Lines in practice right now:
Kane-McDavid-Yamo Foegele-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi Hyman-Nuge-Kassian Shore-McLeod-Ryan
Nurse-Bouch Keith-Ceci Lagesson-Russell
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jan 29, 2022 9:55:08 GMT -7
Kane is a more talented Matt Tkachuk. He will get under opponents skin, BUT he will also be able to get retribution on anyone taking liberties with McD. Also, I'm a bit confused about Hyman. Hoping someone here can help. Before, or just after we signed, I'm sure I read he's more affective on the RW then the LW, where he's been playing. Yet DN/TG's podcast yesterday Tom was 'surprised' to hear that he was a better RW? Did I misread that last summer? Anywho - my lines are: (LW/Center/RW) Kane/McDavid/Hyman Foegle/Drai/JP McLeod/RNH/Yamm Shore/Ryan/Kassian (though either Shore/Scev can swap at center and Benson can go on LW as well with the one not being the center sitting) Odd man out - Scevior who was put on waivers anyway - to make room for Kane and to join the taxi squad if no one picks him up I think it's time to give Foegle a chance on second line. I also think Having RNH on a third line is better. Not sure Tipp will go that way though. Well, Foegele has been on the second line since Nuge's injury. AND it looks like Nuge is gonna be centring the third line today.
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Post by yuke on Jan 29, 2022 11:15:56 GMT -7
Lines in practice right now: Kane-McDavid-Yamo Foegele-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi Hyman-Nuge-Kassian Shore-McLeod-Ryan Nurse-Bouch Keith-Ceci Lagesson-Russell That 4th line get a shift per period.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jan 29, 2022 11:41:16 GMT -7
Lines in practice right now: Kane-McDavid-Yamo Foegele-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi Hyman-Nuge-Kassian Shore-McLeod-Ryan Nurse-Bouch Keith-Ceci Lagesson-Russell That 4th line get a shift per period. I think the forward lines should be: Kane/McLeod-McDavid-Hyman McLeod/Kane-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi Foegele-Nuge-Kassian Benson/Perlini-Ryan-Sceviour
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Post by oilyfan on Jan 29, 2022 16:10:57 GMT -7
Kane is a more talented Matt Tkachuk. He will get under opponents skin, BUT he will also be able to get retribution on anyone taking liberties with McD. Also, I'm a bit confused about Hyman. Hoping someone here can help. Before, or just after we signed, I'm sure I read he's more affective on the RW then the LW, where he's been playing. Yet DN/TG's podcast yesterday Tom was 'surprised' to hear that he was a better RW? Did I misread that last summer? Anywho - my lines are: (LW/Center/RW) Kane/McDavid/Hyman Foegle/Drai/JP McLeod/RNH/Yamm Shore/Ryan/Kassian (though either Shore/Scev can swap at center and Benson can go on LW as well with the one not being the center sitting) Odd man out - Scevior who was put on waivers anyway - to make room for Kane and to join the taxi squad if no one picks him up I think it's time to give Foegle a chance on second line. I also think Having RNH on a third line is better. Not sure Tipp will go that way though. Well, Foegele has been on the second line since Nuge's injury. AND it looks like Nuge is gonna be centring the third line today. Yep for a few games but problem is we haven't played that many. Would like to see what Foegele can do given more ice time with more talent on the ice with him. I don't mind your 3rd line suggestion of Fog/RNH/Kass either. If Foegele can't produce up there, maybe add Perlini into the mix at 2nd line LW?
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Post by oilyfan on Jan 29, 2022 16:11:51 GMT -7
Kane is a more talented Matt Tkachuk. He will get under opponents skin, BUT he will also be able to get retribution on anyone taking liberties with McD. Also, I'm a bit confused about Hyman. Hoping someone here can help. Before, or just after we signed, I'm sure I read he's more affective on the RW then the LW, where he's been playing. Yet DN/TG's podcast yesterday Tom was 'surprised' to hear that he was a better RW? Did I misread that last summer? Anywho - my lines are: (LW/Center/RW) Kane/McDavid/Hyman Foegle/Drai/JP McLeod/RNH/Yamm Shore/Ryan/Kassian (though either Shore/Scev can swap at center and Benson can go on LW as well with the one not being the center sitting) Odd man out - Scevior who was put on waivers anyway - to make room for Kane and to join the taxi squad if no one picks him up I think it's time to give Foegle a chance on second line. I also think Having RNH on a third line is better. Not sure Tipp will go that way though. SO many options with Kane in the fold. There is tons of flexibility in this roster now. Still have boatloads of work to do at D and G My only worry is the blender comes out before the whatever the lines are have a chance to gel
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Post by happyhappy on Jan 30, 2022 6:21:14 GMT -7
Looked good to mine eye last night, granted our opponent was an easy one. Considering Kane hadn't played in awhile he kept up well and had a decent game. And what better way to start a new team then to score the game's first goal early on. A fine deflection it was too. Solid boxcars after 1 game. 1G, +2, 3shots, 4hits. 17:52 min. Giddyap!
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Post by yuke on Jan 30, 2022 9:46:24 GMT -7
Lines in practice right now: Kane-McDavid-Yamo Foegele-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi Hyman-Nuge-Kassian Shore-McLeod-Ryan Nurse-Bouch Keith-Ceci Lagesson-Russell That 4th line get a shift per period. That line played well
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Post by windsoroiler on Jan 30, 2022 9:47:26 GMT -7
They said Kane threw an small elbow or something on Suzuki but missed it. He has to watch himself, doubt nothing comes of it. Kass with the goalie don;t think that was intentional by him and hope no further discipline
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Post by happyhappy on Feb 3, 2022 6:57:59 GMT -7
Liking what I'm seeing so far in Evander. 3GP: 2G, 1A, +5, 9 shots, 15 hits!, 1 blocked shot Couple nice deflections on his goals. Have not seen instant chemistry with McD (to be expected) but good things are happening when they are out there together, it will take some time, only been 3 games and they are looking more comfortable each game together. Kane is keeping up just fine for a guy who hasn't played games in awhile and certainly does not look out of place out there. I'm surprised how much he's throwing his body around too and I'm loving it. 7 of our team's 26 hits last night he delivered. Our team needs more of that physicality as a whole. He hasn't taken any silly penalties either. I thought after he got flipped into the bench last night he was gonna maybe lose his cool but he didn't. He seems fully engaged out there and so far I'm pretty impressed. Annnd the best part of having Kane now is the depth he's created in our line-up. Coach has more options at his disposal now and we should have more balance throughout the lines.
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Post by Bronco73 on Feb 12, 2022 18:04:32 GMT -7
Starting to think the Evander Kane thing might be more than just this year. In his media availability today he mentioned how difficult it is to move into his new house while playing so many games and now going on the road. This tells me the likely plan is for him to re-sign
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Post by yuke on Feb 13, 2022 0:03:13 GMT -7
Starting to think the Evander Kane thing might be more than just this year. In his media availability today he mentioned how difficult it is to move into his new house while playing so many games and now going on the road. This tells me the likely plan is for him to re-sign That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows.
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Post by happyhappy on Feb 13, 2022 6:50:16 GMT -7
Starting to think the Evander Kane thing might be more than just this year. In his media availability today he mentioned how difficult it is to move into his new house while playing so many games and now going on the road. This tells me the likely plan is for him to re-sign That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows. Yes, will be tough, but I hope Ken find's a way, for the right price of course. We need more "hard to play against" players like Kane. I'd like to keep Yam, McLeod, and JP but I could see Yam being packaged in a trade. Of the three, he would be the one I'd say goodbye to anyway, though he IS one of those "hard to play against" players, so is JP and McLeod. I absolutely love Yam's work ethic and the fact he's so small yet he's one of our top hitters (5th), and is relentless in his puck pursuit which draws a lot of penalties (3rd next to McD and LD). However Holloway will be arriving soon next yr or later this yr and there are only so many spots on the roster, not sure one will be available for Yam, perhaps. Keep them all if I could. Koski savings will go toward a new tender but the 1.65 from Turris will be helpful. I'd way rather keep Krusty at 1.25 then have Barrie for 2.5 more yrs at 4.5. He had a great yr offensively last year but his offense has disappeared and if he doesn't bring that he brings nothing. He does not hit, does not block shots (ok he does sometimes), and is not a great defender. At first I thought it was a great signing based off his production, now, not so much as I've gotten to know the player. Kassian too, at 3.2 for the next 2.5 yrs, gross. He too brings nothing to the table anymore except a minor fear factor. He's not playing like he was prior to his contract anymore and at 3.2 we could be getting much more value then what the current Zack offers, which is next to nothing. Anyway, if we could magically free up Barrie and Kassian's contracts that's a whopping 7.7mil to spend wherever. We'd obviously need to replace Barrie but that shouldn't be hard and we may be able to do that from within the org. Not too sure what Kane will be asking for though. First things first, we still have this season to go!
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Post by mrtea on Feb 13, 2022 8:55:35 GMT -7
That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows. Yes, will be tough, but I hope Ken find's a way, for the right price of course. We need more "hard to play against" players like Kane. I'd like to keep Yam, McLeod, and JP but I could see Yam being packaged in a trade. Of the three, he would be the one I'd say goodbye to anyway, though he IS one of those "hard to play against" players, so is JP and McLeod. I absolutely love Yam's work ethic and the fact he's so small yet he's one of our top hitters (5th), and is relentless in his puck pursuit which draws a lot of penalties (3rd next to McD and LD). However Holloway will be arriving soon next yr or later this yr and there are only so many spots on the roster, not sure one will be available for Yam, perhaps. Keep them all if I could. Koski savings will go toward a new tender but the 1.65 from Turris will be helpful. I'd way rather keep Krusty at 1.25 then have Barrie for 2.5 more yrs at 4.5. He had a great yr offensively last year but his offense has disappeared and if he doesn't bring that he brings nothing. He does not hit, does not block shots (ok he does sometimes), and is not a great defender. At first I thought it was a great signing based off his production, now, not so much as I've gotten to know the player. Kassian too, at 3.2 for the next 2.5 yrs, gross. He too brings nothing to the table anymore except a minor fear factor. He's not playing like he was prior to his contract anymore and at 3.2 we could be getting much more value then what the current Zack offers, which is next to nothing. Anyway, if we could magically free up Barrie and Kassian's contracts that's a whopping 7.7mil to spend wherever. We'd obviously need to replace Barrie but that shouldn't be hard and we may be able to do that from within the org. Not too sure what Kane will be asking for though. First things first, we still have this season to go! The only way this works next season is if Kane takes a hometown discount to stay because of our present cap situation. If he wants to stay in Edmonton, I would gladly welcome a player of that caliber who chooses to be an Oiler at a discount. I like what I have seen from him so far, toughness, skill and keeping opponents accountable, but not reckless craziness (isn't that what Kassian was supposed to do?). This could a best of both worlds situation, filling a hole and saving money.
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Post by Bronco73 on Feb 13, 2022 11:21:56 GMT -7
Starting to think the Evander Kane thing might be more than just this year. In his media availability today he mentioned how difficult it is to move into his new house while playing so many games and now going on the road. This tells me the likely plan is for him to re-sign That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows. If I'm Ken Holland, it's good-bye to Kailer and good-bye to Turris as well. Regardless it will still be incredibly difficult since Darnell's raise takes effect as well. Hypothetically: Kailer + Kyle + Mikko + Russel = 8.6 Darnells' 3.65 raise leaves roughly 5.5 to play with to sign Evander and Jesse, and make whatever other changes Holland sees fit. We have other RFA's to sign as well. IMO Niemalainen is VERY important to re-sign, Lagesson, Mcleod, Perlini and Benson are all RFA's too.
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Post by AlwaysOil on Feb 13, 2022 11:28:15 GMT -7
That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows. Yes, will be tough, but I hope Ken find's a way, for the right price of course. We need more "hard to play against" players like Kane. I'd like to keep Yam, McLeod, and JP but I could see Yam being packaged in a trade. Of the three, he would be the one I'd say goodbye to anyway, though he IS one of those "hard to play against" players, so is JP and McLeod. I absolutely love Yam's work ethic and the fact he's so small yet he's one of our top hitters (5th), and is relentless in his puck pursuit which draws a lot of penalties (3rd next to McD and LD). However Holloway will be arriving soon next yr or later this yr and there are only so many spots on the roster, not sure one will be available for Yam, perhaps. Keep them all if I could. Koski savings will go toward a new tender but the 1.65 from Turris will be helpful. I'd way rather keep Krusty at 1.25 then have Barrie for 2.5 more yrs at 4.5. He had a great yr offensively last year but his offense has disappeared and if he doesn't bring that he brings nothing. He does not hit, does not block shots (ok he does sometimes), and is not a great defender. At first I thought it was a great signing based off his production, now, not so much as I've gotten to know the player. Kassian too, at 3.2 for the next 2.5 yrs, gross. He too brings nothing to the table anymore except a minor fear factor. He's not playing like he was prior to his contract anymore and at 3.2 we could be getting much more value then what the current Zack offers, which is next to nothing. Anyway, if we could magically free up Barrie and Kassian's contracts that's a whopping 7.7mil to spend wherever. We'd obviously need to replace Barrie but that shouldn't be hard and we may be able to do that from within the org. Not too sure what Kane will be asking for though. First things first, we still have this season to go! With Barrie his 5v5 points should go up as JW like his d involved more in the o zone. His bad pinches will likely still happen but, hopefully, we’re going to have that forward covering. D zone I think will be his biggest challenge - he’s just not physical enough. Woodcraft/Manson like the short passes in the d zone over the stretch passes. Hurts Barrie and Keith, I think, but should help Nurse. I would rather see his cap used elsewhere, so long as we’re not buying out or losing a trade just to make it happen.
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Post by fogolin2 on Feb 13, 2022 13:01:49 GMT -7
Starting to think the Evander Kane thing might be more than just this year. In his media availability today he mentioned how difficult it is to move into his new house while playing so many games and now going on the road. This tells me the likely plan is for him to re-sign That will be a financial challenge. Yammy, McLeod and JP need raises ( not large ones as of today's play) but Turris, Mikko and Russell's contracts will be off the books so who knows. I don't think Yammo is getting qualified, let alone a raise.
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