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Post by mrtea on Nov 4, 2019 0:41:56 GMT -7
On Rey, I think she is going to be Luke's daughter. Which would explain the movies title "The rise of skywalker". Also fits in with her parents leaving her alone on Jakku. I'm thinking her mother died or was killed somehow likely by the empire, which is part of what forced Luke into seclusion on the remote planet, to protect his daughters identity from the empire just like what happened to him and Lea when they were born. and... here is a new smiley to show everybody we have new awesome ones! There are soooo many good ones it's hard to pick, but it sure is fun!!
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Post by Bronco73 on Nov 4, 2019 0:44:09 GMT -7
I'm both incredibly pumped and a little sad. Sad that the saga is coming to an end, and excited because it looks bloody awesome! They say the saga is coming to an end, but hopefully that doesn't mean that they will not be coming out with prequils or more movies that happen during the original saga timeline. I just love everything star wars and really want to see it continue. They’re gonna keep making more movies. Rumour has it the next major story arc they’re going to do is going to take place during the Old Republic era. That arc is supposed to span multiple movies, similar to the current saga. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have no idea how happy this makes me! No lie... When star wars episode iv came out, the original in 1977, I went to see it at the theaters 23 times, I'm not exaggerating I had even kept all my ticket stubs to prove it (sorry I can't prove it any more they are long gone now lol). And if you recall they brought it back to theaters a year later and I went a few more, then after Empire came out they brought it back to theaters again as a double bill with both films and I of course went again a few times. Then they added the STUPID KuzmenkoING CGI to it in 1997 and I want a few more times. All totalled up I saw it just in theaters well over 30 times. Does that scream geek or what? I bought the trilogy in VHS, then the re-mastered in VHS, then the special edition VHS then the DVD box sets... Now I have them all in full HD on my movie server and get this, I even have the ORIGINALS before the CGI, good luck finding that! I'm one sick star wars Brad Marchand lol
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Post by Bronco73 on Nov 4, 2019 0:47:10 GMT -7
On Rey, I think she is going to be Luke's daughter. Which would explain the movies title "The rise of skywalker". Also fits in with her parents leaving her alone on Jakku. I'm thinking her mother died or was killed somehow likely by the empire, which is part of what forced Luke into seclusion on the remote planet, to protect his daughters identity from the empire just like what happened to him and Lea when they were born. and... here is a new smiley to show everybody we have new awesome ones! It wouldn’t explain why Luke seemed to not know Rey in The Last Jedi. If she is Luke’s daughter, he didn’t know. If Luke knew he had a daughter, Leia and Han would probably know too. She would have been roughly 10 years old while Ben was still Luke’s apprentice, before he went into hiding. Also, they already explained why Luke went into hiding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If he left when she was just a baby or even if circumstances were different and left before she were born, there's no way he'd recognize her. Plus, if you recall Vader who had amazing command of the force didn't even have a clue that Lea was his daughter when he had her imprisoned on the death star. Just throwing it out there. Honestly why would they call the film "The Rise Of Skywalker"? The film is all about Rey, IMO she has to be a skywalker. Either way I can't wait to see the answers!
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Post by mrtea on Nov 4, 2019 0:47:38 GMT -7
They’re gonna keep making more movies. Rumour has it the next major story arc they’re going to do is going to take place during the Old Republic era. That arc is supposed to span multiple movies, similar to the current saga. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have no idea how happy this makes me! No lie... When star wars episode iv came out, the original in 1977, I went to see it at the theaters 23 times, I'm not exaggerating I had even kept all my ticket stubs to prove it (sorry I can't prove it any more they are long gone now lol). And if you recall they brought it back to theaters a year later and I went a few more, then after Empire came out they brought it back to theaters again as a double bill with both films and I of course went again a few times. Then they added the STUPID flamesING CGI to it in 1997 and I want a few more times. All totalled up I saw it just in theaters well over 30 times. Does that scream geek or what? I bought the trilogy in VHS, then the re-mastered in VHS, then the special edition VHS then the DVD box sets... Now I have them all in full HD on my movie server and get this, I even have the ORIGINALS before the CGI, good luck finding that! I'm one sick star wars Dallas Eakins lol My daughter comes down to den in the basement and as she walks by she has said to me so many times " I can't believe your watching Star Wars again".
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 0:48:09 GMT -7
They’re gonna keep making more movies. Rumour has it the next major story arc they’re going to do is going to take place during the Old Republic era. That arc is supposed to span multiple movies, similar to the current saga. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You have no idea how happy this makes me! No lie... When star wars episode iv came out, the original in 1977, I went to see it at the theaters 23 times, I'm not exaggerating I had even kept all my ticket stubs to prove it (sorry I can't prove it any more they are long gone now lol). And if you recall they brought it back to theaters a year later and I went a few more, then after Empire came out they brought it back to theaters again as a double bill with both films and I of course went again a few times. Then they added the STUPID flamesING CGI to it in 1997 and I want a few more times. All totalled up I saw it just in theaters well over 30 times. Does that scream geek or what? I bought the trilogy in VHS, then the re-mastered in VHS, then the special edition VHS then the DVD box sets... Now I have them all in full HD on my movie server and get this, I even have the ORIGINALS before the CGI, good luck finding that! I'm one sick star wars Dallas Eakins lol Disney has gotten Kevin Feige, the current President of Marvel Studios, to produce the next Star Wars movie. They want him to work some of the same magic he did for the Marvel movies. The Last Jedi divided the fan base, so Disney wants to mend that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Bronco73 on Nov 4, 2019 0:50:24 GMT -7
Don't get me going on The Last Jedi.... that movie made me furious. I wouldn't have thought it would be possible to be worse than episodes 1 2 and 3, but they found a way. On that, I thought Rogue One and Solo were both awesome movies as well.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 0:51:58 GMT -7
It wouldn’t explain why Luke seemed to not know Rey in The Last Jedi. If she is Luke’s daughter, he didn’t know. If Luke knew he had a daughter, Leia and Han would probably know too. She would have been roughly 10 years old while Ben was still Luke’s apprentice, before he went into hiding. Also, they already explained why Luke went into hiding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If he left when she was just a baby or even if circumstances were different and left before she were born, there's no way he'd recognize her. Plus, if you recall Vader who had amazing command of the force didn't even have a clue that Lea was his daughter when he had her imprisoned on the death star. Just throwing it out there. Honestly why would they call the film "The Rise Of Skywalker"? The film is all about Rey, IMO she has to be a skywalker. Either way I can't wait to see the answers! Ben turned to the Dark Side when he was about 18. He’s 10 years older than Rey. Which would have made her about 8 years old before Luke went into hiding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 0:53:02 GMT -7
Don't get me going on The Last Jedi.... that movie made me furious. I wouldn't have thought it would be possible to be worse than episodes 1 2 and 3, but they found a way. On that, I thought Rogue One and Solo were both awesome movies as well. I didn’t mind The Last Jedi. I didn’t think it was great, but I don’t think it was horrible either.My main issue with it is that it didn’t feel like a Star Wars movie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Bronco73 on Nov 4, 2019 0:55:06 GMT -7
If he left when she was just a baby or even if circumstances were different and left before she were born, there's no way he'd recognize her. Plus, if you recall Vader who had amazing command of the force didn't even have a clue that Lea was his daughter when he had her imprisoned on the death star. Just throwing it out there. Honestly why would they call the film "The Rise Of Skywalker"? The film is all about Rey, IMO she has to be a skywalker. Either way I can't wait to see the answers! Ben turned to the Dark Side when he was about 18. He’s 10 years older than Rey. Which would have made her about 8 years old before Luke went into hiding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stop making sense and let me live my lies dammit!!! Maybe he was training Ben off planet and never got to meet his daughter. Or maybe it was a one night stand and the mother took off to Jakku and never told Luke about it, did you consider that?? lol just messing with ya Haha... either way, we will be getting all the answers in less than two months!
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 1:00:46 GMT -7
Ben turned to the Dark Side when he was about 18. He’s 10 years older than Rey. Which would have made her about 8 years old before Luke went into hiding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stop making sense and let me live my lies dammit!!! Maybe he was training Ben off planet and never got to meet his daughter. Or maybe it was a one night stand and the mother took off to Jakku and never told Luke about it, did you consider that?? lol just messing with ya Haha... either way, we will be getting all the answers in less than two months! Scratch that. Ben was 23 when he went to the Dark Side which would have made Rey 13. But yes, less than two months. I can’t wait. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by mrtea on Nov 4, 2019 5:06:16 GMT -7
Stop making sense and let me live my lies dammit!!! Maybe he was training Ben off planet and never got to meet his daughter. Or maybe it was a one night stand and the mother took off to Jakku and never told Luke about it, did you consider that?? lol just messing with ya Haha... either way, we will be getting all the answers in less than two months! Scratch that. Ben was 23 when he went to the Dark Side which would have made Rey 13. But yes, less than two months. I can’t wait. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I know it sounds odd to some people, but that was one of the main reasons I was so anxious to get my operation date as early as possible. So that I would be recovered enough to sit comfortably in the theater seats to see the new Star wars movie and be recovered enough to be mobile around Christmas. As it turns out my doctor gave me worse case scenario times for recovery. After my surgery he said things went well and instead of being off work for a minimum of 6 months that we can look at it after 3 months and maybe go back at 4-5 months if everything is doing well. Mobility wise I should be good after about 6 weeks, I just can't lift any weight over 5 lbs and no bending or twisting. I can't bend, but look at my emoji's go!
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 4, 2019 13:42:59 GMT -7
Think of how awesome Star Wars movies would actually be if they shunted some of that multi-million dollar budget from excessive and often way-too-unnecessary SFX to paying actual competent, talented writers to craft a well conceived story arc. IMO, they've managed this franchise poorly and ineptly and wasted so many opportunities and much potential over the years.... hey wait, where have I heard that before?
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 13:56:08 GMT -7
Think of how awesome Star Wars movies would actually be if they shunted some of that multi-million dollar budget from excessive and often way-too-unnecessary SFX to paying actual competent, talented writers to craft a well conceived story arc. IMO, they've managed this franchise poorly and ineptly and wasted so many opportunities and much potential over the years.... hey wait, where have I heard that before? Special Effects are used because it's safer. If you're a studio head, and have a 200 million dollar project, and your job is on the line with every movie you look over, you're definitely gonna go the safest route possible. Disney with Star Wars has been better than what George Lucas did with the prequel trilogy. Those were written and directed by him. Every mistake in those 3 were HIS. Thank God Ewan McGregor was cast as Obi-Wan, because he was what made those movies watchable.
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 4, 2019 14:23:26 GMT -7
Think of how awesome Star Wars movies would actually be if they shunted some of that multi-million dollar budget from excessive and often way-too-unnecessary SFX to paying actual competent, talented writers to craft a well conceived story arc. IMO, they've managed this franchise poorly and ineptly and wasted so many opportunities and much potential over the years.... hey wait, where have I heard that before? Special Effects are used because it's safer. If you're a studio head, and have a 200 million dollar project, and your job is on the line with every movie you look over, you're definitely gonna go the safest route possible. Disney with Star Wars has been better than what George Lucas did with the prequel trilogy. Those were written and directed by him. Every mistake in those 3 were HIS. Thank God Ewan McGregor was cast as Obi-Wan, because he was what made those movies watchable. Idk. 200M is a lot of cheddar. I'm pretty sure there is more than enough there to spend on effects to satisfy the majority who are there to watch things blow up and fly around and whatnot, and still be able to spend a few bucks on writing talent instead of just handing the keys to whatever director is involved and ending up with ridiculous plotlines full of holes and nonsense.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 14:26:18 GMT -7
Special Effects are used because it's safer. If you're a studio head, and have a 200 million dollar project, and your job is on the line with every movie you look over, you're definitely gonna go the safest route possible. Disney with Star Wars has been better than what George Lucas did with the prequel trilogy. Those were written and directed by him. Every mistake in those 3 were HIS. Thank God Ewan McGregor was cast as Obi-Wan, because he was what made those movies watchable. Idk. 200M is a lot of cheddar. I'm pretty sure there is more than enough there to spend on effects to satisfy the majority who are there to watch things blow up and fly around and whatnot, and still be able to spend a few bucks on writing talent instead of just handing the keys to whatever director is involved and ending up with ridiculous plotlines full of holes and nonsense. Well The Force Awakens was written by JJ Abrams, Michael Arndt, and Lawrence Kasdan. Kasdan was a co-writer on Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Return of the Jedi. Arndt's credits include Toy Story 3 (which was great), and Hunger Games: Catching Fire (which was the best out of the series). The Last Jedi was solely written by Rian Johnson.
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Nov 4, 2019 14:47:00 GMT -7
Idk. 200M is a lot of cheddar. I'm pretty sure there is more than enough there to spend on effects to satisfy the majority who are there to watch things blow up and fly around and whatnot, and still be able to spend a few bucks on writing talent instead of just handing the keys to whatever director is involved and ending up with ridiculous plotlines full of holes and nonsense. Well The Force Awakens was written by JJ Abrams, Michael Arndt, and Lawrence Kasdan. Kasdan was a co-writer on Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Return of the Jedi. Arndt's credits include Toy Story 3 (which was great), and Hunger Games: Catching Fire (which was the best out of the series). The Last Jedi was solely written by Rian Johnson. Exactly my point. There was no cohesion to any sort of story arc in the new trilogy. Like a hot potato being handed off. The original trilogy's story was written by Lucas alone. I'm not suggesting Lucas is any sort of great writer, especially when it comes to dialogue, by when he was starting out on the biz, he had some good ideas, which resulted in a memorable story that spanned the first 3 SW movies. For the prequels, he was given too much power, and was obviously exposed as a writer with limited good ideas. Kinda like Stephen King in the literary world.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 4, 2019 14:49:51 GMT -7
Well The Force Awakens was written by JJ Abrams, Michael Arndt, and Lawrence Kasdan. Kasdan was a co-writer on Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Return of the Jedi. Arndt's credits include Toy Story 3 (which was great), and Hunger Games: Catching Fire (which was the best out of the series). The Last Jedi was solely written by Rian Johnson. Exactly my point. There was no cohesion to any sort of story arc in the new trilogy. Like a hot potato being handed off. The original trilogy's story was written by Lucas alone. I'm not suggesting Lucas is any sort of great writer, especially when it comes to dialogue, by when he was starting out on the biz, he had some good ideas, which resulted in a memorable story that spanned the first 3 SW movies. For the prequels, he was given too much power, and was obviously exposed as a writer with limited good ideas. Kinda like Stephen King in the literary world. Okay this I can agree with. What should have happened is JJ Abrams should have overlooked the writing of The Last Jedi so that it would flow well with The Force Awakens. Giving Rian Johnson all the writing power was the wrong move.
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Post by mrtea on Nov 5, 2019 13:25:08 GMT -7
After some review I see that Ben and Rey cannot be twins, but I can't shake that they are brother and sister, everything else fits.
Could it be that after Luke's jedi academy disaster that Luke fearing Rey's power which was even stronger than Ben's decided he was not able to teach Rey because of the potential of an even greater disaster. So he decided to kidnap Rey, mind wipe Han and Leia memories and then place her on Jakku also wiping her memory. Feeling monumental guilt he exiled himself for such a terrible crime.
The possibilities are endless.
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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Nov 5, 2019 17:50:54 GMT -7
After some review I see that Ben and Rey cannot be twins, but I can't shake that they are brother and sister, everything else fits. Could it be that after Luke's jedi academy disaster that Luke fearing Rey's power which was even stronger than Ben's decided he was not able to teach Rey because of the potential of an even greater disaster. So he decided to kidnap Rey, mind wipe Han and Leia memories and then place her on Jakku also wiping her memory. Feeling monumental guilt he exiled himself for such a terrible crime. The possibilities are endless. If that was the case. Wouldn’t it have been smart to deal with all that while Luke was still alive? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by mrtea on Nov 5, 2019 18:02:49 GMT -7
After some review I see that Ben and Rey cannot be twins, but I can't shake that they are brother and sister, everything else fits. Could it be that after Luke's jedi academy disaster that Luke fearing Rey's power which was even stronger than Ben's decided he was not able to teach Rey because of the potential of an even greater disaster. So he decided to kidnap Rey, mind wipe Han and Leia memories and then place her on Jakku also wiping her memory. Feeling monumental guilt he exiled himself for such a terrible crime. The possibilities are endless. If that was the case. Wouldn’t it have been smart to deal with all that while Luke was still alive? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't know, remember Rey sensed Luke had shut himself off from the force. Once she got there he might not have known how to deal with things and there was also other issues to deal with that took precedence. He might have shelved things till the right time came and didn't get the chance before he died. Remember he was surprised that Rey was communicating with Ben through the force, so there was a lot Luke was not aware of. They hint that Luke trains her so he must be a force ghost like Yoda and Obiwan(ben) Kenobi.
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