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Post by Marshall Bruce Mathers III on Jul 23, 2021 7:52:11 GMT -7
Hes LD. He played below Keith. Capfriendly has him as a LD/RD Yeah, but like most D he prefers playing on his natural side.
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Post by yuke on Jul 24, 2021 21:48:59 GMT -7
Damn you Matt Benning for not fulfilling your projection.
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Post by south on Jul 25, 2021 5:57:36 GMT -7
Last year Larsson led the Oilers in hits and blocked shots. A shut down dman. Replacing him and his role contribution on pk and d zone starts will not be easy, especially on the right side. Add his age, 600+ games played and cap hit to the equation, then the enormity of KH's problem becomes even clearer. I don't think this will be a cheap fix.
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Post by fogolin2 on Jul 25, 2021 6:08:59 GMT -7
Last year Larsson led the Oilers in hits and blocked shots. A shut down dman. Replacing him and his role contribution on pk and d zone starts will not be easy, especially on the right side. Add his age, 600+ games played and cap hit to the equation, then the enormity of KH's problem becomes even clearer. I don't think this will be a cheap fix. For some reason, this whole thing doesn't have me too flustered. I really sense that this will all work out just fine. For all the panties in wads on this board and other platforms, I just think (for no real reason) that we're going to be as good or better on defense.
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Post by toley on Jul 25, 2021 6:39:25 GMT -7
Last year Larsson led the Oilers in hits and blocked shots. A shut down dman. Replacing him and his role contribution on pk and d zone starts will not be easy, especially on the right side. Add his age, 600+ games played and cap hit to the equation, then the enormity of KH's problem becomes even clearer. I don't think this will be a cheap fix. For some reason, this whole thing doesn't have me too flustered. I really sense that this will all work out just fine. For all the panties in wads on this board and other platforms, I just think (for no real reason) that we're going to be as good or better on defense. I think they'll be an adjustment period for Keith he's been in Chicago for so long. If they resign Barrie, I'm hoping they have a backup plan. I haven't heard of any Oilers targets for free agency, which is odd. Just this Hyman shenanigans with Toronto.
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Post by fogolin2 on Jul 25, 2021 6:48:11 GMT -7
For some reason, this whole thing doesn't have me too flustered. I really sense that this will all work out just fine. For all the panties in wads on this board and other platforms, I just think (for no real reason) that we're going to be as good or better on defense. I think they'll be an adjustment period for Keith he's been in Chicago for so long. If they resign Barrie, I'm hoping they have a backup plan. I haven't heard of any Oilers targets for free agency, which is odd. Just this Hyman shenanigans with Toronto. I like that we don't hear anything from the organization. It used to drive me nuts when McT would stand at the podium and announce what he was going to do.....just drove up his own prices. So stupid. Every other buyer in the market is our direct competitor. It's of no benefit to let them know what we're shopping for.
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Post by south on Jul 25, 2021 7:12:30 GMT -7
Last year Larsson led the Oilers in hits and blocked shots. A shut down dman. Replacing him and his role contribution on pk and d zone starts will not be easy, especially on the right side. Add his age, 600+ games played and cap hit to the equation, then the enormity of KH's problem becomes even clearer. I don't think this will be a cheap fix. For some reason, this whole thing doesn't have me too flustered. I really sense that this will all work out just fine. For all the panties in wads on this board and other platforms, I just think (for no real reason) that we're going to be as good or better on defense. I'm not so much flustered,as I am concerned.There is still time for KH to fill Larsson's spot on the right side, but another offensive dman that doesn't hit, block shots or can't clear big forwards from out front isn't the solution I'm seeking. I don't believe Barrie is the answer and with Nurse,Keith or even Bouchard is easier to replace than Larsson's role.We need size,experience and toughness in our own end to lock things down. Think Fogolin,Lowe Smith,Gregg,Huddy,McSorley,Pronger...not Coffey.
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Post by toley on Jul 25, 2021 7:45:39 GMT -7
I think they'll be an adjustment period for Keith he's been in Chicago for so long. If they resign Barrie, I'm hoping they have a backup plan. I haven't heard of any Oilers targets for free agency, which is odd. Just this Hyman shenanigans with Toronto. I like that we don't hear anything from the organization. It used to drive me nuts when McT would stand at the podium and announce what he was going to do.....just drove up his own prices. So stupid. Every other buyer in the market is our direct competitor. It's of no benefit to let them know what we're shopping for. The thing is the hockey-verse knows what the Oilers need, a right defensemen and to fill out the bottom 6. Now what the Oilers want and can actually obtain are different. Holland did spill the beans on something but I am in the notion he knows what he is doing and has a plan and a back up plan to that and a plan c.
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Post by fogolin2 on Jul 25, 2021 7:48:40 GMT -7
For some reason, this whole thing doesn't have me too flustered. I really sense that this will all work out just fine. For all the panties in wads on this board and other platforms, I just think (for no real reason) that we're going to be as good or better on defense. I'm not so much flustered,as I am concerned.There is still time for KH to fill Larsson's spot on the right side, but another offensive dman that doesn't hit, block shots or can't clear big forwards from out front isn't the solution I'm seeking. I don't believe Barrie is the answer and with Nurse,Keith or even Bouchard is easier to replace than Larsson's role.We need size,experience and toughness in our own end to lock things down. Think Fogolin,Lowe Smith,Gregg,Huddy,McSorley,Pronger...not Coffey. Totally. It takes all types to make a great team ,and Larsson had a unique set of strengths that we need to replace. Barrie does too, so if we can keep him that keeps an important role filled. With both, we had a good d last year, so imo we need to keep Barrie and replace Larsson's role as well.
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Post by windsoroiler on Jul 25, 2021 8:46:17 GMT -7
It's the new NHL
Barrie has its merits but he is leaky defensively. Larson is solid but he is not super mobile or fast or a great puck mover.
Good size, mobile, can make passes are the new d. Hedman is not overly physical, neither was Lidstrom.
Looks like nurse has taken a page out of that book. That's what we need. We definitely need stronger players defensively, Bouch will be full time so we already have one d learning on the fly as is Lags.
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Post by drtaf on Jul 25, 2021 9:09:58 GMT -7
I’m with you on this Fog, Larson will be missed but the D needed re-jigging anyway so I’m prepared to see what KH can come up with in addition to Keith. We definitely need more muscle back there in order to balance things out. Larson was good in the shortened season last year but was terrible the previous 2 and I know I was calling for him to be traded for just about anything at 1-point back then and now “He” decided to walk so good luck to him, maybe a change a scenery will do him good or maybe he’ll go back to being 2019 Larson, who knows? I’ll be losing more sleep if we the “done deal” for Hmam is as big and long as they say ($5.5 x 7) . According to the TO fanboi media, Dubai wanted a 2nd or 3rd to sign and trade so 8yrs is off the table (thank god)
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Post by mrtea on Jul 25, 2021 10:42:13 GMT -7
I’m with you on this Fog, Larson will be missed but the D needed re-jigging anyway so I’m prepared to see what KH can come up with in addition to Keith. We definitely need more muscle back there in order to balance things out. Larson was good in the shortened season last year but was terrible the previous 2 and I know I was calling for him to be traded for just about anything at 1-point back then and now “He” decided to walk so good luck to him, maybe a change a scenery will do him good or maybe he’ll go back to being 2019 Larson, who knows? I’ll be losing more sleep if we the “done deal” for Hmam is as big and long as they say ($5.5 x 7) . According to the TO fanboi media, Dubai wanted a 2nd or 3rd to sign and trade so 8yrs is off the table (thank god) Yeah, last season was the first season that I didn't complain about a bad play committed by Larsson, he looked like a solid shut down D. His only real fault last season was he wasn't that fast. It's funny how players can look so much better when they are approaching free agency.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 13:09:13 GMT -7
I liked Larsson but his play over the years was not consistent be it injury or emotional tough times. Was Larsson a good Player, Of course. I do not like how Larsson gave hope with his end of season interview then the first chance he bolted...POOR CHARACTER IN MY OPINION. This is like Having a veteran employee find a new job and not give a two week notice.
Holland kept pursuing Larsson and the agent and both did not have the Character to come out and express any truths to the situation...I think Hollands experience recognized where this was going.
I believe Larsson is replaceable and as the only example of a veteran shutdown dman on the roster I can understand some of the panic. Sure we have some youthful shutdown players coming. I believe there are quality veteran shutdown players capable of providing what larsson brought to the team and maybe at reduced cost.
Larsson was free to explore the market and choose it but did it with a disservice to his fans, the team and the city in my opinion. We have seen many great players sad and upset to leave this market because they were invested in this city and franchise. Larsson don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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Post by Bronco73 on Jul 25, 2021 13:14:16 GMT -7
I liked Larsson but his play over the years was not consistent be it injury or emotional tough times. Was Larsson a good Player, Of course. I do not like how Larsson gave hope with his end of season interview then the first chance he bolted...POOR CHARACTER IN MY OPINION. This is like Having a veteran employee find a new job and not give a two week notice. Holland kept pursuing Larsson and the agent and both did not have the Character to come out and express any truths to the situation...I think Hollands experience recognized where this was going. I believe Larsson is replaceable and as the only example of a veteran shutdown dman on the roster I can understand some of the panic. Sure we have some youthful shutdown players coming. I believe there are quality veteran shutdown players capable of providing what larsson brought to the team and maybe at reduced cost. Larsson was free to explore the market and choose it but did it with a disservice to his fans, the team and the city in my opinion. We have seen many great players sad and upset to leave this market because they were invested in this city and franchise. Larsson don't let the door hit you on the way out! I'm confused... weren't you already a member here, or did you leave us for a while?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 13:27:07 GMT -7
I liked Larsson but his play over the years was not consistent be it injury or emotional tough times. Was Larsson a good Player, Of course. I do not like how Larsson gave hope with his end of season interview then the first chance he bolted...POOR CHARACTER IN MY OPINION. This is like Having a veteran employee find a new job and not give a two week notice. Holland kept pursuing Larsson and the agent and both did not have the Character to come out and express any truths to the situation...I think Hollands experience recognized where this was going. I believe Larsson is replaceable and as the only example of a veteran shutdown dman on the roster I can understand some of the panic. Sure we have some youthful shutdown players coming. I believe there are quality veteran shutdown players capable of providing what larsson brought to the team and maybe at reduced cost. Larsson was free to explore the market and choose it but did it with a disservice to his fans, the team and the city in my opinion. We have seen many great players sad and upset to leave this market because they were invested in this city and franchise. Larsson don't let the door hit you on the way out! I'm confused... weren't you already a member here, or did you leave us for a while? yes and reinstated account. Am I welcome?
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Post by Bronco73 on Jul 25, 2021 13:47:12 GMT -7
I'm confused... weren't you already a member here, or did you leave us for a while? yes and reinstated account. Am I welcome? Absolutely! Welcome back
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 13:49:28 GMT -7
yes and reinstated account. Am I welcome? Absolutely! Welcome back Thank you ,Sir
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Aug 3, 2021 15:39:04 GMT -7
Hey guys! I've been off the grid working in the bush for the last month so I'm not really up to speed with all the moves especially this one. What exactly was the series of events which led to losing Larsson? Far as I know, KH got Keith, which moved Lars off the protected list? Lars was a FA, but was an offer even made by Edm/how much? Did he sign with Seattle or did they grab him in the expansion draft?
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Post by drtaf on Aug 3, 2021 16:17:15 GMT -7
Larson was a ufa so had complete control on where he went. He indicated earlier in the year that he was willing/happy to re-sign and according to kh, he was negotiating as early as January but nothing got signed. It also sounds like kh offered about the same contract but Adam basically decided he needed a change of scenery. No real bad blood In what happened but it does sound like larsson strung kh along a bit which left him a little bit scrambling for a suitable replacement 🤷♂️
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Post by GrooveyAsh on Aug 3, 2021 16:33:43 GMT -7
Ok... and Larsson decides to hit the road, we get nothing in return, and then KH trades RD Bear away?
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