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Post by toley on Oct 10, 2024 9:59:04 GMT -7
It'll count til he's sent down, Jarventie too. Ahhhh. Do you know how long before we try waiving him again? For now he needs to be on the roster, for how long idk. Not ideal to run a 21 man roster if we go this route. They can waive him when ever they want, they'll probably wait to sneak him through. Not sure who tried to claim him. |
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Post by windsoroiler on Oct 10, 2024 11:56:11 GMT -7
Ahhhh. Do you know how long before we try waiving him again? For now he needs to be on the roster, for how long idk. Not ideal to run a 21 man roster if we go this route. They can waive him when ever they want, they'll probably wait to sneak him through. Not sure who tried to claim him. Lavoie back on waivers.
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Post by igibb on Oct 11, 2024 12:04:02 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again.
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Post by toley on Oct 11, 2024 12:43:24 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again. Collusion. Bet McCrimmon asked a team to put in a claim, so Oilers couldn't just send Lavoie down. |
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Post by SuperDave17 on Oct 11, 2024 12:48:08 GMT -7
Honestly, I think the league should call that tampering and sanction Vegas and whoever that mystery waiver team was.
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Post by mrtea on Oct 11, 2024 12:49:05 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again. Collusion. Bet McCrimmon asked a team to put in a claim, so Oilers couldn't just send Lavoie down. Lavoie must like that he is wanted by different teams, he might even get to play for one of them in the NHL this year.
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Post by windsoroiler on Oct 11, 2024 12:49:53 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again. Thanks for posting igibb. Not sure what to say, Thought the same team could not try to claim a player twice but obviously I'm wrong.
Edit. Vegas owns him now, we gain some cap space but lose another home grown developed player.
SB, our glorious GM, loses again. Ever since the guy has been here.
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Post by toley on Oct 11, 2024 14:23:29 GMT -7
Collusion. Bet McCrimmon asked a team to put in a claim, so Oilers couldn't just send Lavoie down. Lavoie must like that he is wanted by different teams, he might even get to play for one of them in the NHL this year. Well he'll be in Henderson, don't know if he'll get a call up. I'm not mad, he just can't make this team. I was more interested in using him as a trade piece. |
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Post by drtaf on Oct 11, 2024 14:45:45 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again. Thanks for posting igibb. Not sure what to say, Thought the same team could not try to claim a player twice but obviously I'm wrong.
Edit. Vegas owns him now, we gain some cap space but lose another home grown developed player.
SB, our glorious GM, loses again. Ever since the guy has been here.
I'm all for bashing GMs LOL, but not sure what SB couldve done differently here other than put him in starting line up and I think others like Philp outplayed him in pre-season and deserve it more and I definitely dont think you can blame him for losing DH or PB? The current state of the D on the other hand??
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Post by drtaf on Oct 11, 2024 14:48:28 GMT -7
Lavoie claimed by the Knights again. Collusion. Bet McCrimmon asked a team to put in a claim, so Oilers couldn't just send Lavoie down. 100% and I can guarandamntee you that if oilers had done this to one of Vegas's rookies the league would be all over us like pigs in shiite and we'd have been fined and forfeited a 1st rounder. I really hate Bettman and this league sometimes 
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Post by toley on Oct 11, 2024 15:08:24 GMT -7
Collusion. Bet McCrimmon asked a team to put in a claim, so Oilers couldn't just send Lavoie down. 100% and I can guarandamntee you that if oilers had done this to one of Vegas's rookies the league would be all over us like pigs in shiite and we'd have been fined and forfeited a 1st rounder. I really hate Bettman and this league sometimes Does Vegas even have any prospects? 😒 |
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Post by drtaf on Oct 11, 2024 20:49:13 GMT -7
100% and I can guarandamntee you that if oilers had done this to one of Vegas's rookies the league would be all over us like pigs in shiite and we'd have been fined and forfeited a 1st rounder. I really hate Bettman and this league sometimes Does Vegas even have any prospects? 😒 only the ones the league allows them to steal from other teams. I see cole shwindt got an assist today. Too bad we didn't screw with them over him, it seems like he could turm into a decent D-man?
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Post by toley on Oct 12, 2024 5:32:18 GMT -7
Does Vegas even have any prospects? 😒 only the ones the league allows them to steal from other teams. I see cole shwindt got an assist today. Too bad we didn't screw with them over him, it seems like he could turm into a decent D-man? Teams making enemies in front offices, Blues, Knights. Rumour is it was Colorado put the claim in so we couldn't send Lavoie straight to the AHL. I hope there's a cut throat mantra, if any of these teams are "f-able" you f with them. |
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Post by windsoroiler on Oct 12, 2024 8:24:34 GMT -7
only the ones the league allows them to steal from other teams. I see cole shwindt got an assist today. Too bad we didn't screw with them over him, it seems like he could turm into a decent D-man? Teams making enemies in front offices, Blues, Knights. Rumour is it was Colorado put the claim in so we couldn't send Lavoie straight to the AHL. I hope there's a cut throat mantra, if any of these teams are "f-able" you f with them. Add Fogolin2 Dubas trading back the Blues 2nd round pick to give them the ammunition on the offer sheets in the 1st place. Oilers can't do much, they were near the top so there's a target on our backs and there's not much we can do to fight back with these expensive deals coming up.
Not the 1st time Dubas has played hardball with us. He knew he was losing Hyman when we signed him, rather than taking a pick so we can sign Hyms to the 8th year. He didn't take the pick, who knows why. Instead of a 5.5 mil cap hit it would have been 5.1 so 400k in extra cap every year for the Oilers. That's probably why, out of spite and not doing the Oilers any favors. With all of our 1st overall picks a few years ago it's not surprising no one is doing us any favors.
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Post by toley on Oct 12, 2024 8:36:12 GMT -7
Teams making enemies in front offices, Blues, Knights. Rumour is it was Colorado put the claim in so we couldn't send Lavoie straight to the AHL. I hope there's a cut throat mantra, if any of these teams are "f-able" you f with them. Add Fogolin2 Dubas trading back the Blues 2nd round pick to give them the ammunition on the offer sheets in the 1st place. Oilers can't do much, they were near the top so there's a target on our backs and there's not much we can do to fight back with these expensive deals coming up.
Not the 1st time Dubas has played hardball with us. He knew he was losing Hyman when we signed him, rather than taking a pick so we can sign Hyms to the 8th year. He didn't take the pick, who knows why. Instead of a 5.5 mil cap hit it would have been 5.1 so 400k in extra cap every year for the Oilers. That's probably why, out of spite and not doing the Oilers any favors. With all of our 1st overall picks a few years ago it's not surprising no one is doing us any favors.
We've seen what Dubas has turned into rather being the wunderkind he was touted to be. I don't think he needs any f'ing with, he'll do that on his own. |
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Post by drtaf on Oct 12, 2024 14:48:11 GMT -7
Teams making enemies in front offices, Blues, Knights. Rumour is it was Colorado put the claim in so we couldn't send Lavoie straight to the AHL. I hope there's a cut throat mantra, if any of these teams are "f-able" you f with them. Add Fogolin2 Dubas trading back the Blues 2nd round pick to give them the ammunition on the offer sheets in the 1st place. Oilers can't do much, they were near the top so there's a target on our backs and there's not much we can do to fight back with these expensive deals coming up.
Not the 1st time Dubas has played hardball with us. He knew he was losing Hyman when we signed him, rather than taking a pick so we can sign Hyms to the 8th year. He didn't take the pick, who knows why. Instead of a 5.5 mil cap hit it would have been 5.1 so 400k in extra cap every year for the Oilers. That's probably why, out of spite and not doing the Oilers any favors. With all of our 1st overall picks a few years ago it's not surprising no one is doing us any favors.
My recollection of the Hyman signing was oilers offered a 6th and Dubas wanted a 3-4th (no idea what the traditional going rate should be for that kind of favour tbh)? I'm not sure having the lucky lottery balls bounce our way has much to do with anything? I think its rather that our org is always way too passive when under attack, be it the league fíng us over PC hire and forcing us to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick, or the ridiculous awarding flames a 3rd round pick for Neal who never scored 21 goals? Our management has never got up and said "This is wrong" dont F with us!! instead they bend over and say take your time and would you like lube with that? You know what they say about nice guys dont you? Well we haven't won anything in 35 yrs, so unless we start acting more like the Vegas's of this world, I'm not sure we will for another 35?
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Post by toley on Oct 12, 2024 15:25:29 GMT -7
Add Fogolin2 Dubas trading back the Blues 2nd round pick to give them the ammunition on the offer sheets in the 1st place. Oilers can't do much, they were near the top so there's a target on our backs and there's not much we can do to fight back with these expensive deals coming up.
Not the 1st time Dubas has played hardball with us. He knew he was losing Hyman when we signed him, rather than taking a pick so we can sign Hyms to the 8th year. He didn't take the pick, who knows why. Instead of a 5.5 mil cap hit it would have been 5.1 so 400k in extra cap every year for the Oilers. That's probably why, out of spite and not doing the Oilers any favors. With all of our 1st overall picks a few years ago it's not surprising no one is doing us any favors.
My recollection of the Hyman signing was oilers offered a 6th and Dubas wanted a 3-4th (no idea what the traditional going rate should be for that kind of favour tbh)? I'm not sure having the lucky lottery balls bounce our way has much to do with anything? I think its rather that our org is always way too passive when under attack, be it the league fíng us over PC hire and forcing us to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick, or the ridiculous awarding flames a 3rd round pick for Neal who never scored 21 goals? Our management has never got up and said "This is wrong" dont F with us!! instead they bend over and say take your time and would you like lube with that? You know what they say about nice guys dont you? Well we haven't won anything in 35 yrs, so unless we start acting more like the Vegas's of this world, I'm not sure we will for another 35? Well that's not just anyone f'ing with us, it literally the NHL. What would suggest they have done differently, to keep those picks that were taken by the league? |
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Post by drtaf on Oct 12, 2024 19:34:27 GMT -7
My recollection of the Hyman signing was oilers offered a 6th and Dubas wanted a 3-4th (no idea what the traditional going rate should be for that kind of favour tbh)? I'm not sure having the lucky lottery balls bounce our way has much to do with anything? I think its rather that our org is always way too passive when under attack, be it the league fíng us over PC hire and forcing us to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick, or the ridiculous awarding flames a 3rd round pick for Neal who never scored 21 goals? Our management has never got up and said "This is wrong" dont F with us!! instead they bend over and say take your time and would you like lube with that? You know what they say about nice guys dont you? Well we haven't won anything in 35 yrs, so unless we start acting more like the Vegas's of this world, I'm not sure we will for another 35? Well that's not just anyone f'ing with us, it literally the NHL. What would suggest they have done differently, to keep those picks that were taken by the league? I'd suggest that if they had biatched loud enough after the bias unfair treatment they got by being forced to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick (NHL promptly changed the rule immediately after), then maybe the NHL thinks 2x about screwing them again? Afterall the reason Bruins got that pick was because they biatched to the league about it even though they had already fired the focker? its the old adage "squeeky wheel gets the grease"' If You complain loud and hard every time there's even a perceived injustice, it makes people think twice as they dont want the hassle. I'm basically saying the OMG should act more like "Karen's"' and piss everyone off every chance they get so people think twice about messing with them? It may not work, but doing nothing definitely doesnt work!
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Post by toley on Oct 12, 2024 19:46:56 GMT -7
Well that's not just anyone f'ing with us, it literally the NHL. What would suggest they have done differently, to keep those picks that were taken by the league? I'd suggest that if they had biatched loud enough after the bias unfair treatment they got by being forced to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick (NHL promptly changed the rule immediately after), then maybe the NHL thinks 2x about screwing them again? Afterall the reason Bruins got that pick was because they biatched to the league about it even though they had already fired the focker? its the old adage "squeeky wheel gets the grease"' If You complain loud and hard every time there's even a perceived injustice, it makes people think twice as they dont want the hassle. I'm basically saying the OMG should act more like "Karen's"' and piss everyone off every chance they get so people think twice about messing with them? It may not work, but doing nothing definitely doesnt work! I don't remember Boston complaining, it was literally a compensation rule. Cause we also gave a pick to San Jose too, for McLellan. |
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Post by drtaf on Oct 13, 2024 16:17:38 GMT -7
I'd suggest that if they had biatched loud enough after the bias unfair treatment they got by being forced to give bruins a 3rd rnd pick (NHL promptly changed the rule immediately after), then maybe the NHL thinks 2x about screwing them again? Afterall the reason Bruins got that pick was because they biatched to the league about it even though they had already fired the focker? its the old adage "squeeky wheel gets the grease"' If You complain loud and hard every time there's even a perceived injustice, it makes people think twice as they dont want the hassle. I'm basically saying the OMG should act more like "Karen's"' and piss everyone off every chance they get so people think twice about messing with them? It may not work, but doing nothing definitely doesnt work! I don't remember Boston complaining, it was literally a compensation rule. Cause we also gave a pick to San Jose too, for McLellan. I remember bruins complaining bitterly because there was a lot of ambiguity as to whether he was still a bruins employee since they fired him but the ruling was he was still technically under contract and being paid by bruins although his salary immediately stopped as soon as oilers hired him? It was a dumb rule and they quickly changed it because it meant if a GM signs a 3yr contract and gets fired after 1 season then technically he wouldnt be allowed to GM anyone else until his contract expired? Bruins saw an opp and took it and surprise surprise the NHL sided with them and then promptly changed the compensation rule! I'm not sure about the compensation for coaches and whether that's still in play but its basically the same rule but for coaches and it's equally dumb so I'd be surprised if its still a rule now or whether the NHL ditched it? The flames thing was even dumber because I believe in that trade there was a clause that they wouldnt have to compensate if Looch scored 10 goals and I think he was on 8 when they shut the season down? So the league arbitrarily determined that Neal was going to hit his target but Looch wouldn't and I believe before the league actually did shut down, Neal was either injured or demoted so oilers could've made the argument both ways if they had tried? Instead they just accept being poosy whipped every time. It's been a thing ever since Sather left as GM IMO.
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